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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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Meat Lobbyists Attend COP28 to Contradict Climate Research | “If we are going to abate climate catastrophe, we must significantly curtail meat production,” one advocate said. (truthout.org)
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[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The reason I say it's whataboutism, is because both need to be fixed unrelated to one another.

We need to get the upper class to stop being awful and we also need to get eating habits that are long term sustainable for an ever growing population with a shrinking supply of fresh water, which farming requires a massive share of.

[–] somegadgetguy@lemdro.id 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I completely agree on that, and while I'm obviously being a bit snarky, the best pressure we could put on rich people and industries would be to frame this as "we're sacrificing so THEY can live large". So a "hamburger index" isn't necessarily out of order.

It's not "whataboutism" to frame the scale of each contributing aspect of addressing climate change. Cutting a single rich person's private jet flights by a flight a month will continue a LOT more than me cutting my remaining dozen cheeseburgers a year. I'm down to do that if the rich person also is willing to cut those flights though.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

If "people are sacrificing their lives so I can be rich" would even remotely affect any one of their actions, we wouldnt be here discussing this. Sadly.