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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I'm genuinely concerned about https://github.com/Whisky-App/Whisky (wine for mac). If they make games run well on mac, there'll be less of a chance for mac users to want to switch to linux in order to game.

And when windows users get burned by windows 12, they'll most likely switch to a Mac if gaming works on it.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think Mac uses will switch to Linux for playing games, they'd either use Windows or play whatever is available on macOS.

But yeah, if gaming on macOS ever gets close to gaming in Windows, I can see some Windows users moving to macOS. But honestly, I also see that as a good thing for Linux gaming since the lower Windows market share is, the more game devs need to cater to the smaller platforms. Also, Apple hardware is expensive enough and hardware limited enough that I don't see macOS ever really catering to high end gaming, so people who don't want Windows but do want a higher end gaming experience would flock to Linux. That said, I don't know how their SOCs compare to discrete GPUs, so I'm not sure where exactly that l line.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Steam Deck is the ideal companion device to a Mac.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. It's also ideal as a companion to pretty much anything, it's a fantastic device.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I meant Mac users specifically. Regular Windows users would probably be less annoyed by Windows on a ROG Ally but SteamOS is the closest thing to an Apple experience for PC games.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps. I haven't used the ROG Ally or any of the Windows-based PC handhelds, so I can only speak for how much I enjoy my Steam Deck.

That said, the "Apple experience" would be a Switch. It just works, looks sleek, and it costs way more than it should given the hardware specs. Yeah, it's not a PC handheld, but that's where I'd expect most Apple users to go for games.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Obviously I've meant for PC games. True video game consoles are on yet another level.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Given just how good apple's SOCs have gotten, more power to them if that's what they want. If they're willing to switch to apple they were never seriously interested in linux.in the first place

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The GPU portion of the M chips is still crap by comparison to what AMD offers. The CPU part they genuinely deserve credit for but that's it.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Who knows, maybe they'll all of a sudden decide to invest in that if Maccies find out they can play games, but are unsatisfied with the performance. Anything can happen.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

From what I've heard the GPU in the newest, most expensive iPhones is okay and a good step up but the chip in Macs is basically the same as in iPhones, just more cores, more memory, and not power constrained because of cooling. I think it's pretty clear that Apple develops these for iPhone first and Macs are just an afterthought.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago

If that's the case, then there is no danger - for now. But if Apple's CEO wakes up on the wrong side of the bed and says "I want to tear up the gaming industry", he totally could.