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As an old D&D player, I've been through multiple editions, and I honestly don't get the hate for 5e. It's not needlessly complex as 3 was, and not as brain dead as 4. It's accessible to everyone, with enough complexity for those of us that liked 3. Pathfinder was fine, but trying it again after 5e is like watching extra work just appear on your table.
If you really want a good time, where the system is truly different for the better, then try Star Wars Force and Destiny. Best system around in my opinion.
The dice are a pain to read, but if you use an app it's moot. The system is great otherwise. F&D /Edge of the Empire is really amazing, with the success/failure, advantage/disadvantage, triumph/despair axes giving a TON of opportunity for collaborative story telling.
A good actual-play podcast with this system was Campaign: Star wars from the One Shot network. https://oneshotpodcast.com/