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Never invade Russia in the winter. Never fight a land war in Asia. Never go for a third term as Prime Minister in Canada. It makes the electorate hate you. I don't complain much about his policies, but Trudeau is screwing his own party over and now we might end up with the Trumpiest of Canadian politicians as PM.

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[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Polling when there's no election is meaningless.

I would say it’s a very noisy signal but not meaningless. Also, one affects the other: the polling affects when there will be an election. Not now!

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm of the belief they use polling to help maintain the status quo of only really having 2 partys people want to choose. The polling helps them ensure no 3rd party steps in and starts gaining traction. A lot of people tell me its a waste of a vote if it isnt for the libs or the cons. The absolute reliance and normality of strategic voting is an obvious sign we are due for electoral reform and some new faces in parliament.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Agreed. Except this might be useful info for the LPC. If Trudeau's trailing PP by 15 points, maybe it's hard to ignore that a new figurehead is needed for them to be competitive in the election. With all the climate change denialism going on, it'd be so disheartening to elect PP πŸ˜”

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If the Liberals lose the next election, it won't be because of Pierre, it'll be despite Pierre. Like his idol Trump, Bitcoin Millhouse could shoot someone in the face on Sussex road and Conservatives would still vote for him. Liberal voters keep their party in check and will only vote when they do enough good things.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because liberals are better humans than conservatives?

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not sure I'd go that far, but I'd say Liberals supporters are less sheep-like than Conservative supporters, generally speaking of course.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Funny, because I honestly see no difference, they just sheep on different things, same goes for avid NDP supporters.

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are always sheep, regardless of views. My belief is that Conservatives have 'better' sheep because they rarely ever vote against their own party (even when damaging information comes to light) whereas LPC/NDP share a voter base and often cannibalize each others support.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago
[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Wasn't that long ago Chrystia Freeland was supposed to take over the party leadership from Trudeau.

Too bad the old boys' network behind the scenes decided that wasn't good enough and kept JT at the helm ... and now the Libs pay the price for their stupidity.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago

Lol what?

That was just something pushed by Nat post because she’s an easier opponent

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago

That comment has everything: Drama, conspiracy, betrayal. Best fiction ever.