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[–] MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not accusing you of being a bot, I'm asking what it was about my comment that made you react to it and not the other comments mentioning milk. I grew up on a dairy farm and like somebody else mentioned, most of the things you mention are just not common practice anymore. At least not in the west.

[–] Grapetruth@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Well that's simply not true, I actually counted the practices I referenced and at least 14 out of 19 are standard practice in just about every dairy operation, are unavoidable on a large scale, and the other ones are extremely common as well. Also, thinking "the west" is better for animals is really misguided, since the US, Australia and the UK have some of the worst animal welfare standards in the world, and for example 99% of animal products come from factory farmed animals in the US. While more streamlined in developed countries, by all accounts, other countries aren't quite as cruel toward animals as most western countries. This does have a lot to do with the fact that wealthier nations consume a lot more animal products than poorer nations on average. Take that as what you will. I'm not trying to point fingers at specific countries since every country in the world treats animals terribly in farming systems, and it couldn't be any other way while we as a society are all consuming these products that need to be mass produced for a (rapidly increasing) human population.

I reacted to your comment because it was the first and only comment I saw that supported using milk. I only said I'm not a robot to explain that by my human nature, I didn't read every comment, and I only have a limited amount of time that I would spend on social media like this in general, let alone this specific comments section. And also, making the point once is probably enough for a lot of people to see it. My goal was achieved already. I'm sorry to single you out, or if you felt that was unfair. Rest assured, I blame everyone for supporting animal agriculture equally.

[–] MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

I will admit I was overgeneralizing by saying "the west" but where I'm from (Northern Europe) most of these practices are certainly not the norm.