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You said it yourself. You don't know what you're talking about here. And despite your continuing ad hominem's and antagonism. I will take one last moment to point out that the use of the term is scholarly and meant to be taken in context. And not colloquially or in layman's terms. It was no more man-made than the dust bowls were in the US. Or any of the other droughts and famines throughout the rest of the world in the exact same times. Saying they were man-made is like claiming that all global warming is man-made. It's not completely. But man is making it worse. But we are also in a natural global warming trend. Context is important. Eldritch is 100% of correct in this instance. They've correctly stated multiple times the human activity made it worse. Which is what the scholarly consensus is. Their only major mistake was engaging those who were disingenuous, smarmy, and or bad faith. Same mistake I made
Also, it's not what I think. But thank you for telegraphing your bad faith. The people who wrote the software stack. Literally have stated many places many times stated the reason directly.
I'll side any day with someone passionately espousing the truth, over someone who calmly lies
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Absolutely mate, I don't know shit about it at all and really am not interested, I feel like I made that pretty clear. But anyone claiming something is 100% fact in a debate without having actual proof is arguing in bad faith, because they're literally engaged in a debate, if it's 100% fact there is no debate, it would have been proven and anything else becomes conspiracy. The fact that Wikipedia actually says man made means there is some debate.
They might be bang right, but not acknowledging any amount of doubt when it clearly exists (unless they are holding back the proof that they haven't shared with the world for whatever reason) is bad discussion.
I'm totally with you there bud, there's a big difference between passion and anger though. One might win people round to your side, the other will only ingratiate you to people already on your side.
You'd have to do alot of explaining if you claimed global warming wasn't manmade too, at that point you'd just be arguing definitions.... Whether that's the definition of what constitutes global warming or the definition of when something becomes manmade.
Good talk :) x