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[–] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 73 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dismissing good advice because the person who gave it to you has flaws is the epitome of logical behavior!

[–] araozu@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Let's assume I didn't know about vaccines and I went to ask for advice to someone. How would I know if what they told me was good advice?

I would ask myself, are they an authority on the subject? Where do they draw the advice from? Who says they are an authority? What did they have to do to earn that authority? Do other authorities say the same?

Are mormons authorities on logic? Why trust advice about logic from someone that doesn't follow logic?

A liar can say that lying is bad. A killer can say that killing is bad. It just so happens that the advice is good, in spite of who said it.

[–] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You ended up agreeing with me in that last sentence.

Disregarding advice you know is good already because you don't respect the source is an emotional, not logical, choice.

[–] araozu@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it's emotional to disregard advice you know is good. However it is a logical reaction to have.

It is logical for humans not to trust or accept advice from a hypocrite, even if that advice may be good. It's not about the advice itself, but about who gives it. That was my point.

Unfortunately humans have emotions, and those emotions factor into our so called "logical decisions". To ignore our emotions is to pretend we are machines, and machines wouldn't be in these situations, as a machine wouldn't give advice it doesn't follow itself.

Now, if we were machines, sure, if the advice is good, it's good, doesn't matter who gives it.

Furthermore, if I already know the advice is good, did I receive advice?

[–] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well, OK, sure. Irrationality is logical in that it's human.

That's one great reason to learn self awareness and mindfulness.