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[–] nightdice@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

why does linux not have an AV?

I can recommend running ClamAV, if anyone is looking for a good one that runs on Linux.

[–] dzervas@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've never even considered ClamAV. I have the idea that it's just a malware signature DB (changing the signature of a binary is almost as simple as recompiling it with a bit different variables)

Am I incorrect? does it have heruistics/active scanning?

[–] nightdice@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It is pretty exclusively a file scanner, but that, combined with Linux's privilege separation, any decent firewall and not willfully executing untrusted files is enough for most cases, I would say.

[–] dzervas@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

what kind of privilege separation? you’re talking about containers/namespaces?

cause as it is linux desktop has 1 unprivileged user and that’s it. from an attackers perspective privilege escalation is irrelevant - you have access to the screen, keyboard, browser, files. there really is nothing left to gain from gaining root

and if you have any reason to gain root, it’s super easy by just replacing sudo with an alias in .bashrc you’ve got the user’s password

We REALLY need sandboxing and soon, that’s why I want to give fedora silverblue a try but my hopes are quite low

btw windows is in a bit of a better place and M1 mac is in much better place

[–] nightdice@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you want sandboxing, isn't firejail pretty exactly what you're looking for?

[–] dzervas@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I’ve not looked into fire jail in depth but I’ve read lots and lots of bad takes on it

What we need is docker with a better graphics integration, in terms of both ease of use and security. maybe wayland can help in that (cause with X you just forward the whole management socket and that’s it, anyone can draw anything)

There’s a chance that snap has done it right (I know that everyone hates it but there’s a CHNACE that they got it right in terms of security and ease of use)

flatpak “is not enough” since the controls it gives you are not enough. first you need flatseal to disable stuff per application and the defaults aren’t good enough and steam for example REQUIRES access to the whole home folder which defeats the whole purpose