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submitted 7 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

OpenAI co-founder Greg Brockman is leaving, too::OpenAI co-founder Greg Brockman announced that he’s quitting just hours after CEO Sam Altman was fired. OpenAI chief technology officer Mira Murati is taking over as interim CEO.

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[-] Tamo@programming.dev 31 points 7 months ago

Generally the type of people who make good founders have to be dreamers to believe that their crazy idea not only can work but can change the world.

These people do not make good leaders as the company matures, as it now needs certainty for investors and detailed plans and structure instead of moonshot fantasies.

The same traits that make them good founders also make it difficult for them to let go of their position, or recognize that they should transition control to a better suited candidate, so often they must be removed by the board.

Source: Software Engineer in a tech startup

[-] alienanimals@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago

I've worked at tech startups and I've always hated seeing the good founders removed. It feels like such a scummy, sterile move. The board doesn't care that the founder/s did a nearly insurmountable amount of work to elevate the company and would rather have some career CEO take over so they can maximize profits rather than do right by the company. It's a perversion of the company's original values and people all so that some rich assholes can make more money.

[-] CodingAndCoffee@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Capitalism is all about perverse incentives. It's unavoidable

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

it now needs certainty for investors and detailed plans and structure instead of moonshot fantasies.

So after the company becomes successful, they need to stop coming up with new ideas? A tech company? Like, I get it but I don't get it. Why do investors want that? Why would anyone want that? You can filter their creative input without indulging their every whim.

It's like the bands that create amazing and unique music and become super popular based on said music, then their next album sounds like every other "pop" band in existence. Like what are people even buying at that point?

[-] Tamo@programming.dev 3 points 7 months ago

I'm by no means saying that they have no further role in the company, and you are absolutely correct that these companies need to continue to innovate. This is why I mentioned transitioning control to a better candidate, because the role of the CEO changes as the company matures.

Smart founders should find a way to continue to play into their strengths instead of clinging to the highest title, otherwise they will always need to be removed.

[-] EddieTee77@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Basically why Larry Page and Sergey Brin had Eric Schmidt become their CEO. He could do all the business stuff while they focused on doing whatever moonshots they wanted

[-] StormNinjaPenguin@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago

Erin Schmidt is the one who turned Google into the shitty company that had to remove their “Don’t be evil” policy.

I remember when this scandal came out: https://www.wired.com/2012/05/google-wifi-fcc-investigation/

I watched the press event when Larry Page (obviously not knowing what was going on) promised that they will immediately delete all the sniffed data, then Eric came, took the mic and corrected: “We will delete the data once we receive the court order that forces us to do”.

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