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    Screw init wars, real OGs discriminate based on DE (lemmy.ml)
    submitted 11 months ago by frippa@lemmy.ml to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Yeah, that does sound better. What are the arguments for init?

    [–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    The only arguments against I have seen so for is systemd does a lot more than just handing system startup (systemd-resolved is one such example) and files that was previously stored as text now require systemd's own tool to read (journalctl?).

    So not the actual startup function, just everything else.

    [–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Mmm I have a general dislike of systemd because it doesn't adhere to the "do one thing and do it well" approach of traditional Unix systems.

    It's a big old opaque blob of software components that work nicely together but don't play well with others, basically.

    Edit: but it solved a particular set of problems in serverspace and it's bled over to the consumer Linux side of things and generally I'm ok with it if it simplifies things for people. I just don't want a monoculture to spring up and take root across all of Linux as monocultures aren't great for innovation or security.

    [–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    Based on the video someone posted, it's not very portable either.

    I feel that little part of my brain that wants to add yet another standard itching. Easily starting something at boot is good, but I don't see why that has to come with loss of modularity.

    [–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago

    Afaik they don't care about being portable to instead focus as much as possible on being fast and whatever