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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Jupiter's quite a long way off from being a red dwarf it would need to be in any 10 times the mass be a red dwarf.

Jupiter is somewhat close to being a brown dwarf which is a star that failed to even become a failed star and is merely hot and glowy but not plasma. Jupiter's atmosphere is just gaseous though perhaps really deep down at the core it achieves brown dwarf level status but we don't consider it to count because it's not the whole planet.

[–] vorbixol@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Red dwarfs are not failed stars. They are the lowest mass objects capable of nuclear fusion. Brown dwarfs are failed stars. Brown dwarfs officially start at 13 Jupiter masses, & have a maximum mass of 75 Jupiter's. Beyond that mass, fusion starts & the object is officially a star.

[–] AffineConnection@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Red dwarfs are not failed stars. They are the lowest mass objects capable of nuclear fusion.

Brown dwarfs are capable of fusion of deuterium at an extremely low power output. Their inability to conduct more substantial fusion involving hydrogen-1 is what sets them apart from red dwarfs.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well failed star is an erroneous term it just means any star that is not bright enough and hot enough that any world around it could sustain life (at least carbon-based as we know it to be).

Any world close enough to have liquid water would be so close as to be irradiated beyond anything we consider to be survivable and probably tidily locked to boot.

It's still a star in the real sense of the term just quite dim and cool.

[–] AffineConnection@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No, it means that it failed to become a star by initiating stellar fusion reactions. This isn't some science fiction term. Red dwarfs are stars, and brown dwarfs are not.