this post was submitted on 05 Nov 2023
221 points (97.0% liked)
Star Trek
10531 readers
10 users here now
r/startrek: The Next Generation
Star Trek news and discussion. No slash fic...
Maybe a little slash fic.
New to Star Trek and wondering where to start?
Rules
1 Be constructive
All posts/comments must be thoughtful and balanced.
2 Be welcoming
It is important that everyone from newbies to OG Trekkers feel welcome, no matter their gender, sexual orientation, religion or race.
3 Be truthful
All posts/comments must be factually accurate and verifiable. We are not a place for gossip, rumors, or manipulative or misleading content.
4 Be nice
If a polite way cannot be found to phrase what it is you want to say, don't say anything at all. Insulting or disparaging remarks about any human being are expressly not allowed.
5 Spoilers
Utilize the spoiler system for any and all spoilers relating to the most recently-aired episodes, as well as previews for upcoming episodes. There is no formal spoiler protection for episodes/films after they have been available for approximately one week.
6 Keep on-topic
All submissions must be directly about the Star Trek franchise (the shows, movies, books etc.). Off-topic discussions are welcome at c/quarks.
7 Meta
Questions and concerns about moderator actions should be brought forward via DM.
Upcoming Episodes
| Date | Episode | Title |
|---|---|---|
| 05-23 | DSC 5x09 | "Lagrange Point" |
| 05-30 | DSC 5x10 | "Life, Itself" |
| 07-01 | PRO S2 | Index |
| 10-24 | LD 5x01 | TBA |
| 10-24 | LD 5x02 | TBA |
In Production
Lower Decks (2024-10-24)
Strange New Worlds (2025)
Section 31 (2025)
Starfleet Academy (TBA)
In Development
Untitled comedy series
Wondering where to stream a series? Check here.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
This feels like a very un-Vulcan sentiment. After all, logically, there is no way of being certain what happens to the kid when you aren't there.
Believing otherwise is based on hope/faith. Which are inherently illogical from a Vulcan standpoint.
Vulcans understand calculated risk. It would be illogical to assume certainty was possible in any situation. What would be Illogical is for Samantha to assume that she didn't have a positive impact on Naomi, and that Naomi wouldn't be loved and cared for by the Voyager crew were she to die.
It would also be illogical to focus on what she cannot control (especially in an emergency situation) Tuvok is reminding her that she's done what she can.
I'm with you, the only part of this that's based on faith is the last statement, and that's easily attributed to Tuvok recognizing that the more emotional humans tend to respond well to faith.
He's served with humans for decades, and he knows strict Vulcan mentality won't help this situation. (A lesson he continued to learn during voyager's run, despite the decades of experience under his belt)
Yeah toally, and I don't even think it's fair to say any of it based "on faith". Tuvok lays out several reasons why Naomi thriving is highly probable.
If it was TOS Spock he probably would have said something like "I predict there is a 91.47% chance your child will reach adulthood with strong emotional and physical health" (followed by a "my God, man!" from McCoy).
I think this bears repeating because a lot of people don't realize it. Tuvok is canonicially a lot older than he looks: he served under Sulu on the Excelsior! I don't think he was in active service during the entire interval between then and the Voyager era (because why would his rank be so low?), but he's been around a long time.