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[–] vrutkovs@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hold on, Premium subscription where Google gets the cut and doesn't have to provide you with any report on your money spent is "a financially viable option"?

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

As opposed to paying even $1/mo per channel I subscribe to, yes. Many creators have come out and said that their earnings reports show that higher-valued views come from Premium users, even though those viewers are not being served ads. It benefits them more than if I were to sit through every ad on their channel.

At the end of the day, Google's paying them more for my views than if I were an ad-viewing user. So for ~$20/mo (for family plan), that's much more financially viable for me than if I were to pay $1/mo to all 100+ creators I watch.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I suggest you do the math. Your views are worth about $.001 each. Google it. The most generous estimate I could find was $.005 a view.

If you donate a quarter a month to your favorite creators, you'll be doing more for them than giving them 50 views within the same month.

And that's the highest estimate. The lower end shows you giving them 250 views to break even on that 25¢ monthly donation.

[–] teejay@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At the end of the day, Google’s paying them more for my views than if I were an ad-viewing user. So for ~$20/mo (for family plan), that’s much more financially viable for me than if I were to pay $1/mo to all 100+ creators I watch.

Are you trolling? It feels like you are. At no point in this thread is anyone saying you need to start paying more. If you're paying $20/mo for premium, and you're using an arbitrary amount of $1 as the donation minimum per creator, then why not just donate $1 to 20 different creators for each month? Then the next month, donate to the next 20 creators, then the next 20, and so on. Believe it or not, all of those creators still get paid more by your direct donations -- even measured over several months -- compared to the tiny fraction they'd get from that same money via your premium subscription.

It seems like you're trying to argue some moral high ground of funding content you enjoy on youtube. That's fine. But it takes about 10 seconds of critical thinking to find ways to do it where you pay the same, the creators get paid more, and google gets paid nothing.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

Because realistically, that's more work than I'm willing to put into it. I wouldn't maintain that long-term. Especially because then I'd have to also sit through ads (99% of my YouTube use is from my TV via my PS5, so adblock isn't an option there), which would turn me off from using the platform, at all.

Premium is what works with the compromises I'm personally willing to make. And, this may come as a shock, but I don't want Google to get nothing, either. They need to be able to maintain their platform, which I get hours upon hours of use of every single day. I don't take issue with them making money in order to keep the lights on.