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[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 95 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I still don't know whether you're supposed to hit those and I also don't know if it's normal to get two challenges or if that just means I did the first one wrong.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 106 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

It doesn't really matter, they don't expect you to get everything right on these. While most of the time you need to get mostly right (Google is using these to train their AI so often they are not sure themselves), they are also looking at other things, like how you move your mouse, and the cookies that they use to spy on people to determine the probability of you being a human. If you pass a certain threshold they let you through, and you can do it even if you miss a square.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

and the cookies that they use to spy on people to determine the probability of you being a human

which is why I assume, as a VPN user who rejects as many cookies as possible, I constantly have to do 5-6 fucking captchas in a row, sometimes more, before it'll let me through.. I can't be that bad at doing them lol

Is it frustrating? Fuck yeah. Will it get me to change my behaviour and drop those measures so that the companies getting in my way can collect more of my data? Fuck no.

[–] Inductor@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Have you tried using an automatic CAPTCHA solver (e.g. Buster)?

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

No, will give it a look, thanks

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I will have to look into this as well

[–] null@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yup, as soon as I moved to a privacy-focused browser, pi-hole, and VPN, I started getting a ton more captchas and they had many more in a row.

I consider it a badge of honor.

[–] veroxii@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I also started getting way more once I moved from chrome to Firefox.

[–] mnglw@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago

I use a trackball mouse for disability reasons. I have to actively slow my cursor movement to a crawl and deliberately slowly click each square otherwise I fail captcha's

it's infuriating

[–] onion@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think you should do what the majority of people would do

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This has been memed about forever, no one knows what the majority does.

[–] veroxii@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Most people do.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Isn't it normal to get something like 6 challenges?

And suddenly one of them has new slow loading images which you won't notice before clicking continue, thus failing

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago

The most I got at once was around 21 I think. But twice I did such number without passing.

I should finally look at one of those automated captcha solver extensions for Firefox. I know some are more accurate than humans anyway.

[–] Johanno@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Oh I usually get the green checkmark without any captcha.

It depends on the website you are visiting, whether you are loged in on Google and how much cookies you allow and a lot more. Also using Chrome may help because it collects more data.

Sometimes loging out of Google also helps.

[–] Pietson@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

AFAIK, the first one is the real check, the second one is too train their image recognition AI.

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It has to be more sophisticated than that. Otherwise users could easily taint the datasets by giving wrong answers on purpose.

It probably checks your answer against the current model's best guess and if it's close enough, you get a pass and your input is added to the training data for the next iteration. The more wrong you are, the more challenges you get.

[–] Takios@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Otherwise users could easily taint the datasets by giving wrong answers on purpose.

I do that and as long as it's not too outlandish it lets me through.

[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That was in text captcha days

[–] neoman4426@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I vaguely remember 4chan figuring out something to do with which was the control and which the variable and deciding to spam solving the control correctly but the variable with some kind of nonsense (knowing 4chan probably a slur) until the system got enough confirmation that it got moved to the control group and would accept I it there