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Somehow paying for Netflix is fine but god forbid I want to watch a 10 hour loop of the DS9 intro without ads.

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[–] nnjethro@lemmy.world 49 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

It includes youtube music. And creators you watch get more money than if you watched using the ad supported version.

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)
  • You also get to play video with a screen off on mobile

  • You also get to download for offline viewing

  • You also support the creators of the videos, not just google.

  • AND FFS YOU DONT GET ADS.

Using adblock isnt some innate human right. They are well within their rights to block adblock.

You get almost the whole worlds information for free in video form. You can be entertained or use it as a teaching tool. It is the best place at this point for product demos and reviews. It is a crazy wealth of information and infrastructure that everyone takes advantage of and somehow just expect to be free. If Google cancells it because it is not profitable, i would bet the efficiency of the entire human race takes a significant nose dive. It also probably runs one of the highest sets of data storage and encoding on the planet.

[–] K3zi4@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can do all of those things without premium if you have the right apps.

But besides that, absolutely not. I remember when YouTube was free with no ads, I remember when the adverts first started appearing, and that's when it became obvious that they were trying to annoy you into a pay model. It took a little longer than expected, but sure enough, they ramped up the ads until "YOUTUBE PREMIUM! PAY FOR NO ADVERTS!"

Fuck that, I had no adverts before and they took that away. But the worst part is that they harvest my private data and make money from me already. As far as I'm concerned, that's my subscription to their shit, in their perverse data selling.

No fucking way I'm going to also pay them for the privilege to have my private data sold.

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

It's almost like they were bleeding money and needed to at least break even.

[–] TwoCubed@feddit.de 6 points 10 months ago

You also get videos crammed full with sponsors. One might say that most videos on YouTube are ads themselves. YT Premium does not have Sponsorblock. Alphabet makes money by selling your data and they continue to do so when you pay them. I support a select few creators via Patreon. Fuck Alphabet, they're not getting a single cent from me.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Using adblock isnt some innate human right. They are well within their rights to block adblock.

Well, they're free to try

[–] ComplacentGoat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

People are ridiculous sometimes. These companies aren't going to eat millions of dollars per day in hosting costs to appease the minority who expect everything to just be given to them.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So, some basic features that you can/used to get by just using a web browser, and soemthing that you can do directly via Patreon.

Definitely value for money.

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

Not all creators have patreon. Also are you using patreon to pay google?

Seems like premium with extra steps?

[–] HerbalGamer@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have all those things with ReVanced

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Revanced pays the content creators and google for your usage?

[–] AnonStoleMyPants@sopuli.xyz -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I kinda want Google to just cancel YouTube. Shit would be hilarious. Also sad and we would lose soooooo much information. But still I kinda just want to see what happens. What new players enter the game, will the monopoly be broken? Though I'm sure Microsoft, Amazon, and other big boys would roll their own versions of YouTube and effectively there would not be a difference, just a small amount of fragmentation.

But still...

[–] dmrzl@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

According to the Lemmy community the folks over at selfhosting will just spawn an international CDN on their raspberry pis and deliver my 5 hour, 400GiB Starfield all categories speedrun recording for free out of good will. Right?

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

The fact the guy above you has been downvoted, and you are upvoted makes me think people dont see this comment is clearly sarcastic.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I thought YouTube music was a separate subscription?

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

~~It is not, unless they perhaps have a YT Music-only subscription but I haven't seen such.~~

Edit: It looks like there is a YT Music Only subscription available, for $3/mo cheaper. I'd still say if you use YouTube any more than just on one-off occasions, its still worth picking up regular YT Premium if you're grabbing the music one anyways, but at least the option is there.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

... I don't know where I got this idea. And I just got another month of Spotify too. Isn't there an easy way to transfer your playlists over there?

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As far as I'm aware, none of the music services really have a direct transfer option available. You pretty much have to use a third party service to do so from what I found the last time I tried to do a major switch.

Funnily enough, I feel like this is one of those things that are present day "AI" could probably help with, if it were integrated with these services. Realistically you'd just need something to do some OCR of images from your playlists, and match the results - I'm kind of surprised that's not something Spotify, Google, etc have done yet.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Awesome thanks!

[–] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago

As mentioned, third party services are there

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There was a YouTube music only tier I was on when I moved from Google Play Music. Eventually I figured out about YouTube Premimum including the music so I changed to that

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 2 points 10 months ago

Oh, interesting, you're correct there does appear to be one which looks to be $3 cheaper. I'll edit my comment to reflect that, thanks!