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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

without giving a coherent explanation for the second veto

They said that they vetoed because "Brazil didn't say that Israel has a right of self-defense".

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago

That's not a coherent explanation given that the purpose of the resolution is to have a ceasefire as in both sides ceasing hostilities.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean, that's part of the given justification for the veto, but it doesn't take a PhD in international relations to figure out that the real reason is obviously that both the US and Israel --and a number of other relevant players-- are currently knee-deep in operations and negotiations and that a cease fire, by changing the dynamic on the ground, would seriously screw those efforts.

My guess is that Israel has a plan that it wants to execute before implementing any cease-fire, and that the US is on-board with it for now.

Unlike most social media users, I don't feel like I know enough to take a position on whether this veto is morally justifiable or not. On its face it seems kind of lame, but I can easily think of reasons why it might actually be entirely justified. We will see.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My guess is that Israel has a plan that it wants to execute before implementing any cease-fire, and that the US is on-board with it for now.

Yeah, it's called "genocide"

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or, you know, they want to make sure that the hostages aren't executed before they agree to a cease fire.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago

Israeli bombing raids have already killed like 40 hostages

They don't give a shit