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So far I really like it, anyone else using it? I'm really considering setting up the discord bridge and just using revolt

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

The problem with matrix is that the standard isn't standardized. Its constantly changing and the matrix server software is buggy

edit: just to be clear I'm not saying revolt is better

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Can you go into more depth about why this is a problem on the server side? On client side, I found a few clients that work well and its been easy breezy since then.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago

The problem is that synapse is very touchy. I've had issues with broken encryption and messages not going though

[–] Imnebuddy@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you like living in the 90's

[–] Imnebuddy@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

That's like saying you can use email if you like living in the 70s-80s. XMPP is a pretty healthy and active project that is standardized like email and ActivityPub. I would consider XMPP pretty modern, especially considering its features, extensions, etc., as well as the numerous applications it is integrated in.

XMPP is also used in very popular games, consoles, and clients.

[–] Slow@lemmy.today 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I recently tried to register in XMPP. I found a site on the Internet with a list of servers and it took me more than an 30minets to register.

You may ask why it took so long? The fact is that registration was closed on some sites. Some sites did not open through the browser.

I managed to register on some servers, but messages to these addresses were not delivered (messages sent from these addresses also did not reach the recipient).

Quick registration through the Conversations and Blabber applications also produced errors.

(One of the problematic servers is og.im)

In general, if you want to quickly register and start chatting with a friend without any problems, this may not work.

I think one recommended server added by default to the application by the developer could solve this problem. (For example, like in Matrix, where you are asked to register with matrix.org)

[–] Imnebuddy@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Have you tried one of these providers? https://providers.xmpp.net/

I didn't have an issue with registration on macaw.me or monocles.de, but I haven't used those accounts yet.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I just want the ability to send images, files and emojis. Last time I checked it couldn't do that.

[–] Imnebuddy@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I will be honest, I haven't came around to using XMPP myself yet, but I am pretty sure you are able to do all of those things, at least with the help of extensions. Here's the XMPP standards that are currently stable or experimental:

Files/Images:

Emojis/Stickers:

Looking at clients, I see various ones that have at least some of the features you are looking for (especially file and image sharing, I haven't found a client that has explicitly implemented the stickers specification yet, but Movim seems to have them):

I would give it some more time. It seems those features are in development, but this is essentially an alternative to Matrix that is more standardized. It's a widely adopted and integrated protocol, so I don't doubt the features you are looking for will become more fleshed out some day.