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Microsoft is preparing to bring on Amazon as a customer of its 365 cloud tools in a $1 billion megadeal, according to an internal document::Preparations for this huge cloud software deal mark a significant shift in the relationship between the two technology giants.

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[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 48 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

RIP productivity for all those Amazon employees. My company recently made the switch and it has been rough as this trash doesn't even work half the time. We've been using all the same standalone products for decades without issue but now after the switch to 365, I regularly can't check email or opening a fucking PowerPoint. Also the wonderful OneDrive loves to duplicate every fucking shortcut on my desktop until it's filled with 17 copies of each one along with filling the C:\ drive on every shared PC to 99% capacity.

I swear to god the people in charge of making these decisions have no concept of how any of this stuff works or what benefit (if any) it'll bring to their employees. They seem to believe every sales pitch about some off-the-shelf solution revolutionizing their workflows and can't wait to fork over money that would be much better spent elsewhere like on the materials/equipment we actually use every single day to perform our jobs but is in short supply or in a terrible state of disrepair because "there's no money in the budget for that."

[-] mrtzlbm@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

Sounds like your IT has not configured things correctly and they are most likely understaffed. The move to cloud to save on IT expense is the biggest lie providers tell. If you want the products to work well and fit into workflows they need to be configured.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 8 points 8 months ago

Nearly our entire IT division was laid off in favor of outsourcing. Yet another example of some executive being wooed by some snazzy sales pitch promising the world while delivering a steaming pile of poo.

[-] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

I was an independent IT Management Consultant for decades and nearly all the projects I was brought in to lead were moving from one software / cloud offering to another as they were unhappy with said current offering. Yet in every single case it was that they never took to the time to actually integrate the offering into their business processes and hence they did not see a return on their investment. They would pay me to lead a team to rip it out and replace with another service, only to repeat the mistake despite all my efforts to steer them in the right direction. Executives are so bought into the sales hype and are utterly detached from the reality of implementing that it is laughable. Your government is likely doing this right now across hundreds of millions of dollars of projects. At least the Execs get their egos stroked by MS and similar so someone is winning.

[-] joel_feila@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah all my it friend have all kinds of stories about out if touch bosses. They know to business but nit much else

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 20 points 8 months ago

I haven't had any issues with 365. Sounds like your shit is fucked.

[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Yes OneDrive is such a cluster. A lot of resellers will try to sell SharePoint as a drop in replacement to AD/SMB shares and it’s not and it causes all sorts of issues if you try to use it that way. We get all the same problems with OneDrive creating endless shortcuts if you use more than 1 PC, problems with the sync client creating new folders for automatically synced libraries every time it has a major update and so on.

If you (not talking about you specifically) half-ass the migration to 365 instead of completely retraining your employees on how to work with files and how to use SharePoint correctly. The problems is that the marketing and documentation make it seem easier than it is, and so most orgs don’t realize it until it’s already become a shitshow. That’s how it was for us too.

365 increase your risk profile as it increases the dependency on an outside vendor and increase the attack surface, but it gives you so much more tools for mitigating the inherent risk in running exchange, SharePoint, RDP on premise that it’s absolutely worth the investment. If not 365, then workspace. In my opinion you will spend more trying to maintain and properly protect AD+Exchange than you would properly configuring M365, Entra (Azure AD), and Intune.

[-] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I can't wait to make the switch for our employees. Having to deal with WFH people's VPN issues to reach our server is such a PITA. I have been using 365/OneDrive myself for over a year without any problems. The transition for everyone else is moving turtle slow.

[-] HC4L@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

If you have duplicate shortcuts you probably have the same OneDrive account on multiple computers. Put them on your public desktop in stead of your own OneDrive backed up desktop.

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