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Why happen if I store pirated content inside my VPS? I think the answer is pretty obvious, in their TOS should say that if I do that they will BAN me without warning, but can they detect the files? Or worse, what if I download directly into the VPS with torrent or Jdownloader?

From what I understand (and based on USA laws) only if I torrent something they can BAN me, because I'm redistributing something with copyright in their servers, and I don't only refer to games, this can apply to music, movies, etc.

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[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you rent a VPS, you're having a legally binding contract with whatever company you choose. Read that contract/agreement! It will contain information like if they snoop at your data, if you allow them to rat you out to somebody else or what is allowed and what isn't allowed and consequences if either party does something wrong. You won't find that specific information in US law or some general answer that applies to every provider.

If they say in their TOS: 'we will ban you if you do X' and you agree to that and then do X, they'll probably ban you... if they say something else in their TOS, then something else will happen. this is how contracts work.

However, i'm not sure if US law provides citizens with something like privacy. In other jurisdictions, it is forbidden to just scan through all your customer's data to see if you can find something incriminating. At least on the level of pirating some movies.

And the FBI might have real criminals to arrest. I'm not sure if they're actively looking for peanuts like one person who runs JDownloader. Unless you point them right at it. YMMV

[–] garrettw87@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AFAIK, web hosting clients here in the US don’t really have any expectation of privacy from their host itself.

[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Rly? How do you do business in the US? How do (small) companies rent webservers that process credit card information of their clients? How do they store sensitive data? Like data you're contractually obliged not to tell anyone. Where do you sync private data from your phone?

I know technically, you can snoop at data if you're the host and the server is right there with you. But surely that has to be illegal?

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You work with a provider that is SOC 2 compliant, meaning while they have the ability to access your information, they can only do it in a way that is controllable and auditable by the provider.

[–] garrettw87@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

No idea. Maybe hosts typically follow a policy of not snooping in stored files without a ticket requesting or authorizing it implicitly or explicitly. At least that would make sense to me.