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[–] manapropos@lemmy.basedcount.com 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Let it die. Creators will go elsewhere. We need to shake up the ancien regime a bit

[–] laylawashere44@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Go where? The only companies that can afford to do unlimited video forever for everyone are the likes of Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. Meta tried to steal VOD watchers from YouTube years ago, they failed. Amazon tried to get into VOD via Twitch, they gave up. Microsoft tried to come after Twitch with Mixer, they failed. Moreover, a lot of the things we hate about youtube like poor content moderation, the copyright system, demonetization, etc arent youtubes fault. The broken copyright system is just a result of what copyright law is, it'd probably be worse on a different site since they wouldn't have the special agreement YouTube has with major copyright holders to serve as an intermediary. Instead of content strikes, or an ad revenue claim, that youtube has the special power to do, you'd just default to DMCA takedowns for everything immediately. And yeah content moderation and demonetization is bad but Youtube never wanted to do this right? They were happily showing ads on ISIS videos, its advertisers that forced them, which is how we ended up with a system that randomly pulls ads from videos if there is a hint of something an ad agency would object too. I mean it's either this or advertisers don't advertise at all, which fucks everyone, instead of a few people.

[–] manapropos@lemmy.basedcount.com 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you love watching ads so much go watch them. That’s the same boomer mentality that keeps cable alive to this day. I don’t care, I will never watch ads

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So uhhh where will content creators go, you still haven't answered the question.

[–] manapropos@lemmy.basedcount.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Im not a content creator, why don’t you ask one?

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You said creators will go elsewhere, which implies you know there are alternatives. Just wondering if you had anything in mind, or if you just kinda kicked that can down the road.

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

PeerTube, since if creators are large, then their videos being watched by so many people, cause lots of peers to load balance the video and not destroy the server.

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I love peertube as a technology, I'm not 100% sure it will be a replacement for YouTube - in addition to volunteer content moderating, this comment captures my worries about attracting content creators - basically it seems difficult to get paid.

EDIT: and for folks who think a donation button will suffice, you have people like this who give me serious doubt.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

We got videos before YouTube, it's fine. There are plenty competitors out there.

Peertube, twitch, hell archive.org has a video platform. And there are systems like Odyssey that already pay their creators.