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[–] Vodik_VDK@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I do not get how people get blackmailed with their own nudes.

Like, who gives a shit? I see myself naked all the time. And now you have as well, blackmailer, so if anything I should be getting money from you.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s India not Denmark you dingus. It doesn’t matter if you don’t care, other people care they will ostracize you or worse see it as an excuse to rape you. Like many women get raped in India for simply breaking social norms like traveling without a male chaperone.

[–] codblopsii@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago
[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then maybe we should be addressing those behaviors?

[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes.

Your house is burning. You should be replacing the building materials with something much less flammable, but in the meantime, maybe you might be wise to pour some water on the fire.

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can ruin your reputation or be used in conjuction with other social engineering techniques to eicit fear. It is also very intimate and personal, and shows a private side of your person that may not be intended for others. Examples of threats could be sending them to in-laws, emoyeers, your whole office, the school were your kids attend. Even without any really intention of distributing it, the threat is enough.

[–] Vodik_VDK@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sounds like we just need a Share Your Nudes Week to help destigmatize a very ordinary part of modern life.

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While i agree in the idea of destigmatizing sex, consent (or lack there of) is a key part in why this is so traumatic, without even considering the negative and wrongfully directed anger often targeted at the victim by their community.

[–] nevernevermore@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

yeah having your bodily autonomy removed for any reason is a traumatic experience.

[–] Thorned_Rose@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

I agree. I call myself a closet naturist because I'm all for the human body just being a human body and not ridiculously hyper-sexualised. But I'm also a sexual abuse survivor and that same western hyper-sexualisation makes me very wary and anxious around people who are not also naturists.
I've been assaulted way too many times WITH clothes on to trust the general population who can't comprehend that a naked body =/= sex and an open invitation.

[–] flicker@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Remembering this from Community.

"It's Vietnam!" And he laughed. They had no idea what they were in for.

[–] 520@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now imagine said nudes being sent to your mum, your employer, your kids, etc, and the knock-on effect it might have on your life.

That is why they pay.

[–] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have this crazy strategy that has been working so far: I don't take any nudes.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you read the article at all? They're faked, but that's still enough to cause harm.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they're fake, then I won't care. But of course, like it was said elsewhere, I live in a place where nude pictures are, at most, an embarrassment and not a threat to my life or physical wellbeing.

[–] 520@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You won't care, but your employer might, to the point where they fire you. Your partner might, to the point where they leave you. Your overbearing family members might, to the point where they put out an 'honour killing' hit on you, or do the deed themselves.

[–] puppy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He/she already said it. It is not a problem in the country/society he lives in. "Just an embarrassment", they said.

[–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Like I just pointed out, 'something embarrassing' can have much dire consequences when put in the wrong hands.

It only has to go to someone with no chill and they will make the problems. The place they live in might be chill, but that doesn't mean there will be zero consequences.

[–] puppy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I live in a place where nude pictures are, at most, an embarrassment

What part of above sentence don't you understand? If their society (neighbours, employers, friends and family etc.) doesn't care about nudity, what kind of dire consequences can you have in the wrong hands? If they were photoshopped into doing something illegal, it's not something that can be avoided at all. So you "caring" doesn't work either.

[–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It only has to go to someone with no chill and they will make the problems.

What part of the above sentence don't you understand?

If their society (neighbours, employers, friends and family etc.) doesn’t care about nudity, what kind of dire consequences can you have in the wrong hands?

The problem there is that you are assuming that literally everyone in their lives is chill with this kind of thing. Maybe that is true if you spend your entire life in one particular bubble that happens to accept nudity, but that is true of basically no one. There is always at least one prude that would try to raise hell in the name of Christianity or some other such religion or other shit.

[–] 520@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Add 'dont use your computer or phone while naked' to the list. Spyware riddled machines with webcams can also be how these nudes come about.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 5 points 1 year ago

Alternatively, if somebody threatens you with nudes, release your own! Nobody's going to blackmail you, if you're a nudist! Jeff bezos energy

[–] Vodik_VDK@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My mum

Well she'd know how my transition is going.

My employer

Doesn't seem professional for my employer to be looking at such things. Shame on them.

My kids

I don't have kids but if they were underage then that's a mail-ordered crate of ACME-brand Yikes bad ideas.

(I want to be clear that, even if I am a Dingus, I'm only one who is shitposting.)

[–] 520@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

And such quality shitposting too!

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those weren't nudes of herself, just of her photoshopped on someone else's body.

Do you think a fake bank app would ask for nudes for verification purposes?

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Indian society is nuts:

She has been ostracised by neighbours in the community she has lived in for 40 years.

"As of today, I have no friends. It's just me I guess," she says with a sad chuckle.

Some of her family still don't speak to her. And she constantly wonders whether the men she works with are picturing her naked.

A picture of your head photoshopped on some chick's body? Why is that embarrassing for anyone over the age of 13? I would just assume they were hacked. It's embarrassing for whoever sent it.

[–] puppy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sadly common worldview among societies with "culture and history". Ironically this culture of monogamy and being so sexually prude is a result of Western colonisation. These are Christian ideals, not necessarily the ideals of Buddhism or Hinduism (Remember Temples of Kama Sutra, anyone?). While the colonies have stuck with 1800s, the colonisers have moved on.

[–] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

That means the issue is the culture, not photoshop.