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[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder how many fuck cars people will buy a car when they finally graduate and get a job and realise they want 1 hr 30 commuting every day instead of 3 hours?

My wife and I own two cars and live outside the most urban parts of our city. I actually love cars, especially when I get to drive a standard transmission. But we both are firmly in the FuckCars camp.

We walk, bike, and use public transit when we can, and we vote to improve the pedestrian infrastructure in our area whenever we can. We love vacationing in places with good public transit, and would live in such places if circumstances allowed.

Part of the frustration in the FuckCars community is the very thing you said in your post. Cities are built around cars, which means every other form of commuting is secondary and therefore worse than it could be. This is what we want to change. Build cities around people. Get rid of massive parking lots, dangerous stroads, etc. If people need cars to get from city to city, or outside of cities, totally fine. But they shouldn’t be necessary for day-to-day in populated areas.

Cities could be so much better, and we know this because there ARE cities that are better. It just takes effort and time.

[–] rug_burn@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Cities could be so much better, and we know this because there ARE cities that are better. It just takes effort and time.

And eminent domain, to take the land to build that infrastructure. And money. Lots and lots of money. And way more time than you think. Effectively having to level homes for miles, grade the surface and then, finally getting to build this utopian vision of public transportation, which will then need to be fed, sorry, maintained, by taxes that will shoot through the roof. Then, the displaced will need a place to stay, so enter yet more eminent domain to take more property to build vertical, because there is a finite amount of land. And this would be jn just one small to mid sized US city.

Look, I'm happy for anyone who's happy in how they do their daily. You chose it, and it works for you. Some people don't chose that life, and it doesn't work for them. I respect your way of life, it should only be fair that you respect mine. I'm not driving a 3500 turbo diesel that gets 12 gallons to the mile, stomping on the gas "just because I like the sound" and throwing cheeseburger wrappers out the window.

Difference is, I'm not trying to force my way of life on others...