Idk if this is a hot take, but imo the war in Ukraine is pretty clear city while the Palestinian and Israeli conflict his an infinite list of wrinkles and nuances.

It's far less controversial to say the former is Russia's fault than it is to say the latter is either Palestine's or Israel's fault.

[–] Ineocla@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah mostly because isreal/ Palestine conflict is much older then russia/Ukraine so a lot of things happened. But at it's very core they both started because of the same claim : russia claimed used to own Ukraine so they want it back. The jews used to own Palestine so they want it back. So if you support Ukraine and isreal you're just a hypocrite

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago

I haven't seen anyone here "support Israel". Almost everyone agrees that the Israeli State is not free of guilt, far from it.

What people really disagree over is whether that alone makes Palestine right (nuanced) and whether it justifies Hamas' actions (unhinged but unfortunately semi-common take on here).

[–] ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I mean, if you go further back than 1947/1948, didn't the Palestinians used to own Israel? Or do we want to go even further back, to about 1200 BCE?

[–] sevens@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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