zeca

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[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

im not so sure the devs have fault in any of this though

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

there isnt so much incentive. No advertisement. Upvote counters behave weirdly in the fediverse (from what i can see).

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

cant you read the content?

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 1 week ago

I feel like dogs tend to to give us the benefit of the doubt about everything, never jump to thinking we're crazy.

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 week ago

Revenue and market cap are two different things. The 2 trillion you mentioned is market cap, not revenue, much less it is profit.

I agree it would be a prettier picture if companies paid their workers fairly. But the companies would grow differently. Maybe they would grow better, but differently and more distributed. Comparing absolute values between our world and this dreamland seems silly though.

And I hope that in a world where we are paid fairly we would produce less crap, pollute less. Workers wouldnt be desperately making bad/useless products in order to just survive. A smaller gdp could be a good thing.

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If they had to pay them that much, they would have never hired most of them.

exactly. A company tant doesnt overexplore its workers cannot grow like alphabet did. The underpayment of the workers is an essential feature of alphabet, and part of what makes its market capitalization that high.

This implies that the answer to my question is "no": if the workers had been paid properly from the start, there wouldnt be the discrepancy that makes the founder billionaires.

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 10 points 1 week ago

dont blame me for the opinions of someone else. Just note how hipocritical you sound by dismissing criticism of the us while criticizing russia. Why not both?

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Would that market cap be so high if all those employees were paid that extra million yearly? Market caps depend on more than the actual value of the company's product to society.

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 week ago (6 children)

No, thats not what im saying.

Just that if everyone involved in the process of making something was paid fairly, there wouldnt be enough money to make the end node billionaire.

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 1 week ago (11 children)

your conditions are too specific. what the US did to Iraq, Vietnam, Korea,... is already bad enough. But these dont qualify because they arent neighbors of the us, and the intentions arent exactly what you listed. still, these are already bad enough.

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 1 week ago (8 children)

well, i simply dont agree that googles worth comes down to the work of those two people. what they did may have been necessary for the success of google, but so was the work of a lot of their employees.

again, the www is founded on the work of uncountably many people. the person credited is usually the one at the end of the chain of production. the end of the chain is necessary for there to be a product at all, but each of the other nodes of the chain is equally as important.

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