slurpyslop

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[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

that's the thing though, they don't need to "get help to" palestine, they just need to stop actively supporting israel in its genocide

you think the appetite is going to be there for actually committing resources somewhere when they can't even just do nothing?

[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Not really. In detail, maybe, but there will always be an excuse available to avoid committing US resources to any given genocide.

[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If you're in a safe seat, then no they don't care about your vote as much, so they don't care about your protest vote as much.

If you're in a swing seat, then they care about your vote more, and therefore your protest vote has more weight.

Democrats caring about your vote is by definition inexorably linked to how powerful your vote is.

But since we're talking hypotheticals, if there's another genocide in 5 years, why would the democrats spend political capital to prevent it if they have solid data to show that they don't need to bother and can still win reelection?

That they can just point out how much worse the republicans might be in this scenario? You think Trump will be the only bad potential president? You think if you can get past this one election that US politics will return to "normal"? There's more or less always going to be a Trump from now on.

[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social 0 points 6 months ago (8 children)

palestine is a unique situation? buddy there's literally three attempted genocides going on at the moment. it's not unique by any stretch of the imagination

[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social -4 points 6 months ago (12 children)

the math is pretty clear

for the immediate next election cycle, yes

for the next time there's a palestine, very much no

[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

trump's platform seems more to be "the election was stolen", which his base believes

biden's base on the other hand is horrifically split over his mishandling of israel, and arguably the demographics that are credited with democratic wins in 2022 are most effected

his poll numbers are in the shitter, and over the last two presidential elections polls have been incorrectly biased towards the democratic candidate

[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social -5 points 6 months ago (14 children)

an incumbent has literally never lost a primary

biden was always more or less guaranteed to be the democratic nominee if he wanted to be

[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

and one of those elections he won?

also, during the 2020 campaign, trump's base's biggest complaint was generally that he was running on a platform of "i'm not biden", so i guess both cancelled out

[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago (7 children)

historically "vote for us because we're not them" is a very ineffective way of winning elections

[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social -4 points 6 months ago

i don't think the current round of genocide will last until january, no, whether or not a state called palestine is left standing or not

you're trading in the lives of the next palestine

[–] slurpyslop@kbin.social -5 points 6 months ago (16 children)

continuing to vote for the mildly genocidal party is not going to make the mildly genocidal party less genocidal

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