joshhsoj1902

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[–] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's been a month since they manage to get a first phase of a pharmacare bill passed.

[–] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

It's frustrating seeing conservative followers claim the the current government is lying to them based only on the lies they are hearing from conservative leaders.

Is no one capable of fact checking what they hear? It's exhausting hearing the same bogus statements over and over and over.

[–] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

... Did you read what I posted?

Yes there is a carbon pricing program, that was never up for debate. I pay it too (and get more back than I pay in).

And yes portions of provinces have been mislead because they seem to have no ability to actually validate what they hear on the news. You're a perfect example of that. You're clearly really angry, but the things you're angry about aren't actually true.

I'm assuming you've heard things said by the media, or conservative polititions and you just accepted it as fact and it made you angry. Which was their plan. The whole conservative strategy these days is to mislead their base, create division and make people angry. They don't have any substantial solutions for anything, but that's also ok because their base have been trained to not question anything they hear.

I highly highly encourage you question everything you hear in the media. Official sources (like canada.ca) are trustworthy, but you can also go even deeper and find actual bills. You can work yourself out of the hole you're in, it'll just take time, and you'll have to put in effort. I the current conservative controlled media landscape it takes constant effort to get real facts about things.

[–] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you have anything to actually prove any of that is lies?

I've given you substantial evidence that what you're saying isn't true. And you're just responding with "lies" as if that somehow invalidates the factual evidence I've given you.

You need to either read this new information, learn something new and admit that what you were saying before isn't true. Or you need to provide proof that what you're saying is backed up by reputable sources.

[–] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You hear it all the time because it's how the system works.

This page has more details that will be useful for you:

https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/climate-change/pricing-pollution-how-it-will-work.html

There are also links at the bottom of the page to more details.

If you don't trust it because it's a Canada.ca address, then I think your best bet is to go read the actual bill, I'm not going to find that for you, but you're going to have to but in some effort, you've been mislead (which is fine it happens) but then you've decided to start spreading that same misinformation, that isn't ok. It isn't that hard to be an informed citizen today, but a big part of that is not trusting everything you hear on the news.

[–] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Every province have a carbon pricing model, how did you miss that?

Provinces had the option to build their own system, or use one provided by the feds.

Judging from your other comments you have some very large fundamental misunderstandings of how the system works. I think you need to take a good hard look at where you've been getting your information, someone is lying to you and you're falling for it.

[–] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You're so close. So very close.

If company A uses gas, they have to pay a little more carbon tax, and that extra costs end up in the final product.

But lucky for you! Company B also exists, they crunched the numbers and found that over the life of their vehicle it is actually cheaper to use EVs, in their case their end product is a little cheaper than what Company A could provide.

Then you go to the store and you see option A and B, you see B is cheaper and you buy it.

The carbon pricing model has now worked exactly as economists have been saying for decades.

[–] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago (5 children)

What are you talking about?

The carbon pricing plan from the federal level applies to every province. Each province has the option to create whatever program they wish to put a price on carbon, if they don't WANT to create their own program they can choose to use the default carbon rebate program managed by the federal government.

Any province using the carbon rebate program is doing so by choice. And if you don't like it you should be talking to your provincial politicians and encouraging them to setup whatever system you prefer.

You can't blame the federal government because your conservative provincial government is unable to actually solve any of it's own problems (but that seems to be the conservative strategy these days)

[–] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

Apple users don't have a choice.

Users should still have choices after they pick their OS. This isn't a new concept, Microsoft has been dealing with this same thing for decades. Just because Apple is now being asked to play by the same rules you're having a hissy fit. It's hilarious! 😂

[–] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm confused. You do seem to understand that apple developers don't have a choice, but PC/game developers do. But you fail to understand that those are different?

I don't think I can help you understand.

[–] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 16 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Apple: if you want to sell apps to iOS users you have to pay Apple, there is no other option.

Valve: if you want to sell your game on our platform you can, but you don't have to, there are many other options you can choose to distribute your games.

Does that help you understand?

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