Wow.
StillPaisleyCat
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I’m expecting some thriller aspects, not just the comedy that having Tawney Newsome joining the writers room might suggest.
This show was in development hell for quite a while, but it seems like they finally got a viable concept after the backdoor pilot episode in Discovery season three fell flat, and a new set of creators took over.
Gaia Violo (Co-EP), who is credited with writing the pilot that finally got greenlit, was the cocreator and a senior writer on Absentia. Also, Co-Showrunner Noga Landau was a senior writer on The Magicians when Henry Alonso Myers was showrunner. Landau transitioned Nancy Drew to a much more suspenseful (and successful) version when she took over running the show in season two.
Loved season one. Had a major WTF reaction to a development in season two and hoped it would never be referenced again. But nope.
I bailed one third through season three. The one storyline involving an unlikable character’s unhealthy obsession just became too much.
If you tell me that season four gets away from that, I might be willing to finish season three (fast forwarding through the obession-related scenes).
Yes, ‘blank-Fu’ has been used since the 70s, but as a long time fan of both Trek and HK action films, I can’t say that what Shatner was doing in TOS was referred to in that way until recently.
Is it really so controversial to say 1) Kirk Fu became current in the fandom since the book was published; & 2) the meme is a clear lift from a published work and the drawings its artist Christian Cornia, they deserve credit?
Only fair to credit Treklit author (and former marine) Dayton Ward for his Kirk-fu 2020 book and for coining the term.
Here’s an interview with Ward from the time of its release.
The physical media merchandising team seems to be excellent.
Fans really showed up to buy the Prodigy DVDs, but they also had really put in the effort to promote them. They even came up with party ideas and recipes.
Don’t impose your preferences for doing things in sequence or being a completionist on new viewers please. This seems really bad advice and likely to turn off more potential fans than pull them in.
OP’s question is about how to figure out how to engage someone in the franchise who seems to have her own specific preferences, and things that put her off.
I’m a viewer who first saw TOS as a small child when it was in first run, and everything in first run after that. It for others, there’s a whole range of shows for different tastes, best to figure out which one suits someone’s tastes and pull them into the franchise with that.
When we wanted to introduce our kids to the franchise, we started with TAS, then curated episodes from the other series. Like many tween, Voyager turned out to be ‘their show’ and it makes sense that Prodigy is strongly tied to Voyager. Our kids have moved onto other Trek shows and other franchises as they’ve moved through their teens. TOS, DS9 & Enterprise remain shows that they’ll watch occasionally. But one can never say that they’ve not liked Trek.
There’s a ‘Where to start’ FAQ linked in the sidebar wiki for this community. I recommend going there and taking a look.
The best place to start largely depends on your personal preferences in terms of whether shows need to be action packed, have long term serialization vs episodic, and tolerances for 60s or 80s/90s trends in special effects, technobabble, Shakespearean acting styles.
I’m an older person who has been watching since TOS was in first run, and saw the original Star Wars as a teen. Alien 1 too. All to say, I saw all of it as it came out. We were just so glad in the late 70s that someone was making sci-fi movies that weren’t post-Armageddon dreary.
Trek has held my interest more intently, but I read more than my share of the SW ‘legends’ books as they came out. I can see a wide range of offerings in both franchises, appealing to different audiences and tastes.
It rather boggles me that there are folks who have tried one but not the other. It’s like someone who is a DC or Marvel fan and has never checked out the other. You may not find anything to like, but the potential of finding another universe of stories that interest you is more than worth the risk.
A word of caution. Just about Star Trek every fan thinks that the show they first watched or their favourite show is the best place to start. They’ll argue passionately that you’ll do best starting where they did. Ignore all of it. You’re you.
Read the ‘where to start?’, check out ‘Memory Alpha’ or Wikipedia for the basic description of the main series, pick one that appeals and try the pilot. Be also cautioned that many of the shows take a while to find their groove. Checking out a ‘best of’ list for early seasons is ok if you’re not the of a completist temperament. Hope you find the Trek that’s best for you.
It’s still on SkyShowtime in the Nordics, Netherlands and Eastern Europe where Paramount and NBCUniversal teamed up.
Remember viewers are again a product to sell to advertisers rather than customers of a streaming service.
Uhm, would that be 5/10 episodes of the first half of season one (which has two x 10 episodes)?
Most fans view S1E6 ‘Kobayashi’ as the episode where the balance flips to be more Star Trek as it pulls new viewers in.
It’s interesting that Doug somewhat confirms that Starfleet Academy will be set in the 32nd century.