MediaSensationalism

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[–] MediaSensationalism@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Signup safeguards will never be enough because the people who create these accounts have demonstrated that they are more than willing to do that dirty work themselves.

Let's look at the anatomy of the average Reddit bot account:

  1. Rapid points acquisition. These are usually new accounts, but it doesn't have to be. These posts and comments are often done manually by the seller if the account is being sold at a significant premium.

  2. A sudden shift in contribution style, usually preceded by a gap in activity. The account has now been fully matured to the desired amount of points, and is pending sale or set aside to be "aged". If the seller hasn't loaded on any points, the account is much cheaper but the activity gap still exists.

  • When the end buyer receives the account, they probably won't be posting anything related to what the seller was originally involved in as they set about their own mission unless they're extremely invested in the account. It becomes much easier to stay active in old forums if the account is now AI-controlled, but the account suddenly ceases making image contributions and mostly sticks to comments instead. Either way, the new account owner is probably accumulating much less points than the account was before.
  • A buyer may attempt to hide this obvious shift in contribution style by deleting all the activity before the account came into their possession, but now they have months of inactivity leading up to the beginning of the accounts contributions and thousands of points unaccounted for.
  1. Limited forum diversity. Fortunately, platforms like this have a major advantage over platforms like Facebook and Twitter because propaganda bots there can post on their own pages and gain exposure with hashtags without having to interact with other users or separate forums. On Lemmy, programming an effective bot means that it has to interact with a separate forum to achieve meaningful outreach, and these forums probably have to be manually programmed in. When a bot has one sole objective with a specific topic in mind, it makes great and telling use of a very narrow swath of forums. This makes Platforms like Reddit and Lemmy less preferred for automated propaganda bot activity, and more preferred for OnlyFans sellers, undercover small business advertisers, and scammers who do most of the legwork of posting and commenting themselves.

My solution? Implement a weighted visual timeline for a user's points and posts to make it easier for admins to single out accounts that have already been found to be acting suspiciously. There are other types of malicious accounts that can be troublesome such as self-run engagement farms which express consistent front page contributions featuring their own political or whatever lean, but the type first described is a major player in Reddit's current shitshow and is much easier to identify.

Most important is moderator and admin willingness to act. Many subreddit moderators on Reddit already know their subreddit has a bot problem but choose to do nothing because it drives traffic. Others are just burnt out and rarely even lift a finger to answer modmail, doing the bare minimum to keep their subreddit from being banned.

[–] MediaSensationalism@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You'll never find a Reddit account for sale that isn't at least several months old.

[–] MediaSensationalism@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If I haven't heard of it, then the average Windows user definitely hasn't heard of it.

[–] MediaSensationalism@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The issue starts at the fact that it's difficult to find a computer sold by a common major distributor with Linux already installed, nor does Linux have any marketing aside from word of mouth to compete with the aggressive Microsoft/Apple duopoly.

The threshold to entry begins at simply having the technical prowess to install an alternative operating system on one's computer, which I don't believe a good majority of people are even capable of. Before that, people also need an incentive to transition in the first place. They've probably been using their current OS for a good portion of their life and are more than comfortable with it without putting themselves through another learning curve.

The average person isn't considering an alternative to what they're already using, and if they are, it usually isn't Linux. The biggest problem isn't appeal or ease of use; it's exposure and immediate accessibility.

That said, performance and simplicity would be an excellent selling point for Linux. It would be absolutely worth banking on the open-source nature of it to appeal to a growing demographic of people interested in privacy-oriented tech as well.

Bots don't upvote. There's so much voting activity here as a ratio to actual contributions that my first impression was that the votes might be faked.

[–] MediaSensationalism@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I did a quick dig because I wanted to see if the rise in police homicide would trend with population growth and violent crime rates. It did not.

Violent crime has been pretty stable for the past decade. Growth in police homicide exceeded the population growth rate by about 7%, if I did my math right.

I'd like to investigate more when I have the time.

[–] MediaSensationalism@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's a multi-edged sword. It also means someone could be forced to testify against a friend or loved one, and in a slightly removed example, my beliefs also apply to laws that allow individuals to be imprisoned for failing to provide a password to locked electronics, regardless of whether or not they actually remember it.

Maybe it would be a good middle ground to instead expand the privileges that allow members of a marriage to avoid testifying against one another, to include friends and family. The same reasoning applies, except that the state believes it can determine the strength and meaning of a relationship by its title and type alone.

[–] MediaSensationalism@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think you're confused. The court already has the ability to force testimony, and witnesses can already be thrown in jail for refusing to testify.

I updated the title to make it clear that I'm referring to penalties that already exist, rather than suggesting that new penalties should be created.

[–] MediaSensationalism@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yes, exactly like that.

Of course, it depends on whether the court can prove their recollection whether or not they can be punished, but the bottom line is that it's still illegal and the court remains legally entitled to forcefully procure truthful thoughts and memories from a person.

I don't support any suggestion that updating the law doesn't matter because it is sometimes difficult to enforce, if that was your intention.

[–] MediaSensationalism@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

A witness can still be punished if the court can prove that claims of poor recollection are being abused.

[–] MediaSensationalism@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Propagandists must spend a fortune influencing the wealthy. If enough is known about them, they might even be targeted by advertisements at the individual level by fine-tuned demographics.

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