Gorilladrums

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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

Israel's objective isn't regime change. They would welcome a regime change, but that has never been the objective. The actual objective has been to dismantle Iran's ability to project power. This means stopping them from getting nukes, having a capable military, and having reliable proxies. They've been doing a good job doing all of this over the past few years, and this attack is another example.

On the other hand, Iran's explicitly stated objective is to destroy Israel... And they haven't done a thing to get anywhere near that.

You're simply being dishonest by trying to pretend that Iran is somehow keeping up or exceeding Israel in their back and forth when they're very clearly and objectively not.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Are you hearing yourself? You sound ridiculous.

Results of Israel's attacks:

  • 20+ of the IRGC's top commanders

  • Invaluable nuclear scientists

  • Military systems sabatoged

  • Nuclear facilities damaged

  • Airfields and other critical infrastructure damaged

Results of Iran's retaliation:

  • A couple dozen Israeli civilian injuries

  • A few damaged buildings

These are not at all comparable. Clearly did way more damage to the Iranian regime, and Iran's response is undeniably weaker.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

What videos? Besides we're going off of assessed damage. Israel kills Haniyeh in Tehran and Iran shoots a bunch of empty missles that barely hit anything. Israel kills 20+ of their top commanders in one night and Iran again shoots a bunch of empty missles that barely hit anything. Israel neuters Hezbollah, Iran does nothing. Israel bombs the Iranian embassy in Syria, and Iran does nothing. Mossad agents have been confirmed being literally everywhere in the Iranian state, and they do nothing.

Iran hasn't done any percesion strikes or targeted assassinations or caused any damage to Israeli defenses or destroyed any critical Israeli infrastructure or any covert intelligence operations. They've done nothing because they can't do anything. The Iranian regime literally made destroying Israel a core part of their identity, and over the past few years, Israel has been destroying them without any pushback. For a regime that brags about their prowess and capabilities, why haven't they used them already? The answer is simple, Iran is a paper tiger.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (6 children)

What has Iran done that actually constitutes a proportional response? Every time they get humiliated by Israel, they shoot a bunch of empty missles and then claim that they destroyed Tel Aviv, even though more than 90% of their missles don't hit anything.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

No, that's not what I'm saying. How did you even get that from what I said?

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (9 children)

Iran is a paper tiger. A war of that scale can only be fought if the other side has the capabilities to fight back, Iran does not.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

They have the capability but they're not there yet. They're trying to get there, but every time they make progress Israel bombs them back to square. It's been an effective strategy to stall Iran's ability to get nukes.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

There won't be a WWIII because Iran can't do anything to Israel

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (9 children)

Iran is one of the biggest instigators of genocide in the Middle East. Their proxy terrorist groups have been systematically wiping out religious minorities for decades now.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It is my firm opinion that all people are inherently stupid. We're just apes that evolved to live in simple ape societies, but we somehow ended up living in insanely complex societies that are all interconnected with each other. It's just too much for our ape brains to keep up with everything.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Boy that's not good. I'm not surprised, but it's still not good.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I don't have disagreements with the point you're making. I was just confused why the topic switched from the crew being detained to Palestinians being unfairly imprisoned. They're not really the same thing.

Regardless though, apparently Israel has routed the boat to Ashdod and is detaining the activists in a nearby facility until they get deported to their respective countries. So I guess this conversation doesn't mean much since debating whether or not they're hostages isn't applicable anymore.

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