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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 80 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Time to move to jellyfin I guess

[–] Osiris@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Jellyfins pretty great. It's much simpler than Plex and has quite a few less features, but it does what it does really well

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What are some missing features? I'm only familiar with jellyfin

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Iirc Plex supports transcoding for downloads, while Jellyfin only allows downloading the original file. But I've heard transcoding downloads is broken on Plex, so ymmv.

Intro skip is only available as a plugin on Jellyfin.

Also, Findroid has a better ui and supports downloads, while the official app has more features (ie. settings/admin panel).

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Didn't know about findroid, looks cool

I'll probably keep both installed

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago

They have both good usecases. I have findroid installed on my families devices since all they need is just playing media. It is great for that.

I myself have both because I can administrate the server from my phone via the official app. I also use mostly findroid for watching my media.

[–] spaghetti_carbanana@krabb.org 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Whilst some might not find it a huge deal, not being able to shuffle all episodes of a specific TV show is a deal breaker for me. I do have Jellyfin deployed and configured, ready to go for when the feature arrives. Plex feels a lot more polished as well, but I can get over that.

[–] toastynugs@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I shuffled all episodes of a show on jellyfin yesterday FYI. Not sure when it was rolled out.

[–] trash@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yep. It's there for me on the Android app.

[–] ebits21@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Also on Roku with a recent update

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

The latest roku updates have it. Unsure about the browser capability. I wouldassumed it has it.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That feature exists on several Jellyfin clients. Which client in particular have you been using that lacks it?

[–] spaghetti_carbanana@krabb.org 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for letting me know (and to the others that did as well). I might be able to jump sooner than anticipated, I'll check my client tonight for the feature. I'm using it on the Apple TV, I think its the Swiftfin flavour of the client.

As a side note, it sure is a refreshing change to not be downvoted into oblivion for simply having out of date information and respectfully informed in the comments.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 9 months ago

If you're on AppleTV, another client worth checking out is Infuse, which is a paid app that has a Jellyfin intrgration. Swiftfin is quite a bit newer so it might still be less feature-complete.

[–] Smash@lemmy.self-hosted.site 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sadly in the 4 years I'm using it jellyfin still couldn't figure out how to correctly display series season covers and has some streaming bugs (no audio when audio is DTS and PGS subs are enabled ect)

[–] rezz@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

You should redo your org from scratch and let all the default plugins do the work. Mine looks great and I never changed anything, just followed the recommended file org pattern for Movies and TV Shows.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. 99% of these issues are not naming the files as Jellyfin needs, which I understand can be annoying if you have a large number of files to move to it. And having the right access permissions for files, if you are on Linux.

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[–] oDDmON@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The lifetime license is definitely declining in value.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Agreed, but we probably all knew it had to decline at some point. Nothing is really free.

I'm just glad I feel like I definitely got my money's worth. Feb 2014 is when I got it. So 10 years, 75$. I cant complain 😂

[–] ebits21@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Jellyfin really is free :p

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry, why are we switching away from Plex because of this? Genuinely asking.

E: Wow at the downvotes to an honest question. 🥲

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 months ago (6 children)
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Thanks. I understand this perspective.

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[–] filister@lemmy.world 46 points 9 months ago

Plex is a prime example how corporate shenanigans can ruin an otherwise great piece of software.

[–] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m old enough to have not trusted Plex since the original XBMC split.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I still have an original Xbox with Xbmc on it lol

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[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I was trying to think how Plex thinks this is going to play out, knowing that this move will piss off their customer base. Then I realized, this isn't a play for Plex's existing customer base. This is a play for their customer's "friends and family" that are enjoying shared libraries already.

Their 'customer' base has for many many years been developing a large user base of technologically naive people with Plex apps installed who could never run their own server. If Plex knows, for example, that for every paying customer there's three other users pulling from someone's library, that's a huge opportunity for them to convert those users to paying customers.

Everyone that set up a Plex server and then shared it with your tech-phobic parents, cousins, friends, etc... We made this possible.

I don't like it but I can't argue with the logic from Plex here.

-edit- Tightened up the grammar.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Is that bad though? I don't mind renting a movie I really like even if my friend has it on their Plex. Especially if it's from a small studio. Currently I do that via Google TV. Plex Inc being a small private company might use the money better than a publicly traded giant. I wouldn't mind my friends and family spending a few bucks on it either.

Of course if Plex starts enshitifying existing private streaming features to push this, that'll be another matter altogether. Which would not be unexpected.

[–] lambda@programming.dev 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I've been switched to using Jellyfin anyways. I hope they can do this successfully. They haven't been the best for a while anyways..

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'll probably trial Jellyfin too in preparation to migrate the family should push come to shove.

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yikes this is a good theory. Eventually we will be snuffed out. Sharing will stop. Etc.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Well maybe not. Without the shared libraries I doubt the tech-phobic users will stick around for movies they can likely find other places, especially since I doubt Plex gets very good deals for content.

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[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

The irony is just chefs kiss,

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If its DRM free its not a problem.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not until it's a mandatory popup or recommendation any time you want to watch. Or maybe mandatory ads and popups on "new releases". With Plex, nothing surprises me now.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago

Well I use Jellyfin as I don't want proprietary software on my system and this isn't making me have any regrets. The benefit of Plex is what again?

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[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It would be great, but no chance in hell movie studios would go along with this.

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[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Yes, That's why I run a Plex server, totally. Morons.

[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

Imo this is not enshitification yet, but I'm concerned it could pave the way! It all depends on whether they make using your own content harder to promote this, or if it's just a side hustle to add another revenue stream.

[–] moira@femboys.bar 3 points 9 months ago

i miss old plex (~2016), when it was actually focused on providing local content, good thing jellyfin exist

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