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[–] crowsby@kbin.social 185 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I cannot believe that there are companies and non-wingnuts who are still actively using that site at this point. Like maybe at the start it was ha-ha funny watching him flail about with code printouts and unplugging random microservices leading to outages, but I feel like the moment he started actively funneling money to alt-right knuckleheads and human traffickers should have been enough of a kick in the pants for even folks heavily reliant on the platform to make their exit.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats the worst part about the real world, nobody gives a shit whose at their table as long as they get to eat.

[–] emogu@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yep. It’s easy to complain or change your profile picture or share a link but if putting your money where your mouth is results in even the slightest discomfort or change to your comfort zone, that’s usually where people stop having a problem with the latest offense.

As long as our lives keep moving unaffected we’ll abide anything 😞

[–] CafecitoHippo@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem is that there isn't a great replacement for it now. The same with reddit. I'm on here and I'm on Bluesky. The main uses I have for both Reddit and Twitter/X is sports news and discourse. Reddit for the discourse and Twitter for the news. There aren't the communities here to have that. I want to talk Orioles baseball but the Orioles community here literally has zero comments other than bot comments updating scoring updates/pitching changes during the game threads. I'm trying to do my part and comment/post stuff to them but without any actual responses or conversation it feels like yelling into the wind.

[–] LostDeer@infosec.pub 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yea a lot of the niche communities haven’t and probably won’t migrate to these smaller sites like Lemmy and Mastodon. Don’t know how to solve the issue either.

In this case, the Orioles would have to announce they have an official mastodon to get most fans to move to it.

Personally I’ve just stopped using the internet for checking on my niche hobbies. A good number of Reddit clones have been trying to populate communities with bots to just post links but without any discourse, it’s the same effect as just googling “topic” and filtering for links from this week. I’m sure it will get better with time. Maybe

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[–] Kerrigor@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Porn is the only reason to use it now

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

That's the power of critical mass. Person 1 won't leave because they have too many followers and follows Persons 2, 3 and 4, who also have too many followers and only follow person 5 and 6 there, who...

The decline is gradual, but will hardly be complete. Facebook isn't as used as some years ago, but it's still absurdly big. Xitter is likely to lose some relevancy, but there's not much that can be done to truly "kill" it. One way to speed that up is if space karen x decides to block all porn.

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 100 points 1 year ago

Say the line Bart!

Free speech absolutist

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 100 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Stop enabling his childish tactics by continuing to treat his platform as some kind of essential tool for communication. It simply isn't.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was - and it's not that the need has gone away or been fulfilled elsewhere, it's just that it's no longer viable.

I think paying close attention to this is important though. It's a case study that just keeps giving - every couple weeks we get an important reminder that billionaires and billion dollar companies aren't a good thing - their interests are not aligned with ours

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have never used Twitter or X even once in my life. It's definitely not essential. I really don't understand how people have convinced themselves that short format screamposting into the void is somehow the peak of communication. Just quit and let your followers know why.

If people actually cared about what you had to say, they'd go wherever you go to hear you say it. If not, were they really all that interested in the first place? or was it just convenient because they were already on Twitter and so were you?

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like it or not, Twitter is the only place where you can talk to a random developer at a huge company and get immediate confirmation that there is indeed a bug in their latest release and have a bunch of people crowdsource work arounds. There really is no alternative for professionals and experts to discuss the particulars of their fields and it really sucks that Musk is destroying that.

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[–] o_0@slrpnk.net 86 points 1 year ago (3 children)

at this point, with twitter being inaccessible to non logged in user, the 'public square' thing is totally done,. Get off twitter now. There are alternatives.

[–] Bongles@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The way I use Twitter, I follow ~40 specific people. Half of them created accounts other places when Elon first started fucking around but they don't use any of them so if I want to keep following these people I'm stuck (and I do).

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 1 year ago

This should surprise no one at this point.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 47 points 1 year ago (6 children)

They're going to have a hard time throttling the Fediverse.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Why? Because there are 100 or so moderately active instances with their own url? Or will you expect people who link to the fediverse to use new or obscure instances to indirectly link to things?

[–] rab@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah they're not going to have a hard time at all haha

Export a list of largest instances and put them in the firewall QOS, 5 minute job max

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[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually they could do the same thing to any Fediverse link as they are with these news sites' links. They added a 5-second delay from when a twitter user clicks the external link from a twitter post, which is garbage overall, but not "throttling" websites. Yes I skimmed the article.

The headline seems to imply that Twitter controls the internet traffic to non-Twitter sites, which is misleading. Twitter is simply degrading the experience of their own site's userbase, and nobody else. The rest of us can still visit the news sites that Leon Skum hates without Twitter.

[–] Loulou@lemmy.mindoki.com 9 points 1 year ago

Enshittyfication without earning more money? Interesting concept.

Let's call it shittyfication.

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[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 43 points 1 year ago

I don't give a xit about Xitter.

[–] teft@startrek.website 39 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Wait, I was told net neutrality wasn't needed.

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[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] aranym@lemmy.name 82 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A Mastodon alternative apparently. Seems they haven't implemented ActivityPub yet? I'll stay away.

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[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 9 points 1 year ago

Birdy don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

On Tuesday afternoon, hours after this story was first published, X began reversing the throttling on some of the sites, dropping the delay times back to zero. It was unknown if all the throttled websites had normal service restored.

Who there didn't see that coming? They thought nobody was gonna notice 5s delays on NYT links?

That new CEO must be locked in a cage somewhere at this point because she is definitely not calling the shots on this, or "X", or any of the other nonsense that's still been occurring because only one billionaire egomaniac is capable of this absolute fucking trainwreck.

[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These companies either need to rip the bandaid off and leave Twitter or, at least, start establishing themselves elsewhere and encourage their users to find the content wherever that place is.

[–] rynzcycle@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is definitely already happening. It'll be slow, but both my wife and are work adjacent to marketing for larger companies and "well twitter is a shitshow, what else can we use" is such a constant refrain it's basically canon now.

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[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People eat Elon Musk's garbage PR like it's dinner.

Every damn day they post about some inane shit just so Elon can stay in the 24 hour news cycle.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I am not sure being a petty anti-competitive cunt here is inane exactly,if anything it highlights the issues with rich cunts owning access control.

The most immature billionaire. Scary.

[–] Rounddog@feddit.ch 25 points 1 year ago

It's Elon Musk. So it's not surprising.

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I love the article has an image of the letters T, W and @ from the building.

Good one

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Doesn't that go against net neutrality?

[–] vector_zero@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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[–] Spacebar@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Companies need to abandon Xwitter already

[–] Teon@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Elon CornHusk is nothing but an idiot and a MASSIVE bully. Nothing he says or does has any value.

[–] FlembleFabber@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thank you for saying twitter

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[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

Twitter X Creator Dashboard pays creators for the distribution of CSAM.

If you use Twitter you are supporting the production of child sexual abuse materials.

[–] JTode@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

There are those of us who were on the Internet before the capital showed up, and all of us said that it was a bad idea to use these corporate silos, that there were implications that were not great to handing what we knew would one day be the public square over to private interests. We were not listened to, of course, and for the thirty years that the government kept the house of cards propped up with zero interest they created a real illusion that it might actually work.

But maybe I have to reassess Elon. I have heretofore considered him something of a bad man, a Senator Palpatine with his "saving the world through capitalism" schtick, but with an Emperor lurking in his twisted mind. And here we have that very Emperor, taking off the mask. But perhaps... perhaps... perhaps Musk is actually Vader. Perhaps in revealing, to all with eyes to see, the very problems we Libre'd zealots have been crying out in the wilderness about, perhaps he is the one who will restore balance to the Internet.

Nah he's just an apartheid rich boy who talked a good line while he could keep pulling free money out of the bag, but now that he has to put money back in the bag he's taking whatever work he can get.

[–] ineedaunion@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How has no one just punched him in his stupid face yet?

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[–] theluddite@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

I bet WaPo tweeted out this article. I'd check but nitter is down.

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