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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 144 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

I'm done with Windows and YouTube videos that should have been a written post.

[–] stallmer@sopuli.xyz 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Amen! Can we please have more written posts on the internet again? It’s much easier to search and follow along.

[–] GlitchZero@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Nobody has the attention span to read them - as proven by the declining buy-in on YouTube videos longer than a TikTok reel - let alone write them. Written media will continue to rapidly decline.

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[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 months ago

I mean yes, but there's way better exposure from online videos. Things like this 100% should have an accompanying post though.

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 127 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Isn't this like posting "I'm done with meat, are you?" in /c/vegan?

[–] grandkaiser@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I couldn't roll my eyes hard enough. It instantly reminded me of r/atheism titles going "dae religion bad ?😤" 80,000 up votes

[–] tjhart85@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I mean, kind of ... I have file servers, download servers, documentation servers, syncthing servers, backup servers, vaultwarden servers, etc... that are all linux VMs/containers and my main machine is a Macbook, but I do still have a Windows machine in the living room for gaming (yeah, Steam has pushed us far in this regard, but, when I get time to play a game, I just want to play it, I want the best chance it's going to work the first time and that's still, sadly, Windows). I have another windows machine running Blue Iris as my NVR because I didn't have a good experience with Frigate, Shinobi or a few others. I've got a few other systems floating around that do various things and some of them are linux based and some are windows based depending on what's easier/possible.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Honestly, being unbeholden to any OS or distro is my eventual goal. Eventually on mobile as well as desktop.

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[–] ExLisper@linux.community 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I stopped caring. When my GF bought a laptop I just installed Linux there and she has no issues using it. Linux is where I always wanted it to be. Now when I see someone using Windows I just think "you poor soul" to myself and move on.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Not yet. I'm not upgrading windows again so the day draws near.

[–] jjhanger@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Depends on the context.

Me - Yes. I use Debian 12. No intention any time to go back because of how much I love using Debian. May fire up a VM of Arch so I can run some specific AUR packages I am curious to try out, but we'll see. I am cautious to go on another distor hopping bender between Debian and Arch as they are my 2 favorite distros and I am easily led to do that.

Work - No and that is fine me. I have no control over that and I'm still productive with Windows/Microsoft products.

Family - I am the tech support person of the household. I prefer for people to use what they are comfortable with because that's less on me to maintain.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

There are way way too many testimonials here lately about switching to Linux or installing Arch, etc. These aren't interesting.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago

That was me about 22 years ago already. I've had a Linux desktop for 22 years and anytime I see a windows desktop I'm just wondering why anyone would accept such trash...

[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Somehow unrelated to what this video proposes, Linux has taught and gave me so many possibilities that I would never, ever be able to if I (still) were using Windows to this very day. In other words... thanks to Linux, I can now operate and have fun in a under 3W device.

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[–] schwim@reddthat.com 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, because I don't live in a binary world where I have to pick one over the other.

[–] esc27@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You are lucky. Last night both Linus Torvalds and Bill Gates broke in my house and held me at gunpoint until I made my choice. (Tim Cook would have been there too, but apparently he was guided down the wrong street.)

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago

Lmfao Timmy Apples shoulda used waze.

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

In the cold and desolation; the mad wizard had been eeking out his existence letting the wild know about the horrors that awaited them in Redmondland.

But few listened

Then slowly the kings of Redmondland began to become more crazed in their power; wanting more and more from their subjects. Until a few, a small band of subjects took off their blinders and released the kingdom had spread so far that the mad wizard Linus was in their midst.

They stopped and listened to him

They grew tired of telling the king about everything they did and needing his permission to do anything in their own lives.

The mad wizard wasn’t crazy… he was just upset; it was the king who’d gone mad wanting to control his kingdom…

[–] fxt_ryknow@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I'm forced to use windows in my career life.... But I moved to Linux entirely at home back in 05-06.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm Windows-free for about 18 years.

Windows is a last resort. If some proprietary apps don't work under Linux (mainly at a work).

It's funny how conservative Windows is, it still has components from the NT.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s funny how conservative Windows is, it still has components from the NT.

That calling: ensuring things are compatible with old software and not fucking your users over. Just for fun I tried to install Photoshop 6 from 2000 on Windows 11 and it works just fine. Same goes for MS Office 2003.

[–] SheeEttin@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago

Windows has huge lists of quirks that are hardcoded for specific programs to maintain compatibility.

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[–] NOOBMASTER@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

I'm not done with it until it is eradicated from all the computers and tablets of this world.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

So done, except when my employer uses windows 😹

[–] moog@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wish. Unfortunately I'm to locked into Ableton to switch. Wish they'd make it compatible with Linux :/

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[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

I have a work Windows laptop that I refer to as my time machine. If not for having to use it for time sheets, email, word, and PowerPoint fun I'd kick the habit all together.

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[–] Jayb151@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I just installed kubuntu on my daily driver. That didn't go super well so I tried endeavor, also didn't go well. It could be kde plasma, but it did not feel like Linux is ready to compete for something that is ready out the box.

That said, I run endeavor on my little netbook tablet and it works a wonder, so no idea. I couldn't even get steam to load on my desktop for some reason. I tried Linux on my desktop for half a day, then decided to run back to Win11 with my tail between my legs. It just wasn't with the hassle. Steam didn't work, permissions for my second hard drive for Plex were messed up. I just didn't want to have to figure it out. I'm back comfy with windows, and just experimenting with my netbook for the time being.

I really wanted Linux to stick this time... Oddly, I was using Ubuntu on my daily driver back in 2012 without a problem.

[–] AVengefulAxolotl@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Its crazy how polarizing the Linux experience can be. Was it a desktop or laptop? For me it was just a few clicks (Manjaro then Endeavour) on the first try and be done with it on my desktop PC. Also with dual booting.

Hopefully next time you will have more luck! "Sadly" I cannot go back to windows now, I got Linux-pilled. Linux just treats my right without any Microsoft ads.

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[–] MxM111@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (5 children)

After many weeks spend on downloading and installing various things for linux, he complains that he needs to download drivers for windows, a process that will take one afternoon or less. Makes sense. I understand that Linux is a tech toy for a techy, but pretend that somehow it is easier installation and setup than windows for average person is just dishonest. Even which flavor of linux one should install creates a stupor for non-tech person (or a person who never used linux).

[–] westyvw@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The thing is, most people don't consider installing an OS. Odds are the computer came with one.

Otherwise (aside from the paralysis of choice) neither Linux nor Windows present more or less of a challenge to install.

The people who find the most difficulty seem to be the ones who think they know better or have become used to the windows way of doing things.

As an aside, Last windows install I did required setting two registry keys during the install process. It was far more annoying than a typical Linux install.

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[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

The install Linux is vague because each distro (not themed or flavoures) is effevtively a unique OS, and user onboarding is a different experience per disro. However if you have ever installed Windows to an unformated drive compared to something like Zorin install. Windows is the harder install for nontech people

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[–] Quik@infosec.pub 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I’m with you with (distribution) choice (that’s definitely stressful, especially when you aren’t used to actually having to choose what kind of computing experience you want) but driver/program distribution on Linux is less painful/easier than on Windows on average. If your hardware happens to be supported, everything should work out of the box without the need to install drivers; the biggest problem for more or less average users would be having to install Nvidia drivers if they have a Nvidia GPU. Installing software is generally as easy as opening your distribution’s software store, searching what you need and hitting the install button.

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[–] neytjs@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Yep. Windows XP was my last Windows and when it became obsolete I permanently switched to Linux Mint (without dual-booting). Everything that I use has worked very well. I've never even thought about switching back to Windows.

[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

As soon as gaming is mostly flawless and similar or better performance than windows, I'll be 100% over. Gaming has come so far, all the way into the 2010s the only games on Linux were like Portal, HL, minecraft, and KSP. But it's still got a little ways to go.

[–] baldturkeyleg@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

If that’s the only barrier, you should try again. It’s further along than you think. Thanks in large part to the Steam Deck, compatibility is miles better. I have run into 2 games since I switched 1.5 years ago that won’t run - both are EA titles (shocked Pikachu face). That was my reason not to switch too.

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[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 4 points 11 months ago

It's always worth remembering that Linux is not a product, it is free software. So if you are switching you can't go into it with the mindset of "somebody better fix this or I'm leaving" because there is nobody that will feel that pressure or care. You have to use Linux because it's something you want to do.

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[–] 7fb2adfb45bafcc01c80@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Yup! Since 1993... Started Linux on my desktop and haven't looked back.

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hell yeah I am. I've been using linux since 2019. I bought a dell laptop and installed manjaro.

I recently discovered GNU Guix and decided to install it onto an old desktop (built in 2009) I had laying around. I used a system crafters custom installer and the accompanying video to do a non-libre kernel install. I've been liking Guix and I think I'm going to install it onto my laptop and make it my daily driver.

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[–] MXX53@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I am looking at offloading asuch power draw from my physical residence as possible. I have an older windows desktop that I use strictly for gaming. However, I have mostly moved my higher end gaming to GeForce now. The service is often and my dream is to be able to run a lower powered laptop, and use GeForce now for high end gaming, but Nvidia is doing everything in their power to prevent Linux users from getting their full benefit of GeForce now. This means that I have to either keep an old macbook around or use windows to get my 1440p 120hz feature in geforce now.

As soon as there is a reliable way for linux to do this, I am completely off of windows. (with the exception of work)

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