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[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 119 points 11 months ago (13 children)

I wouldn't go down this route, painting all rednecks as Maga supporters is not fair to them or conducive to a good outcome.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago (3 children)

And there are plenty of MAGA dipshits who aren't rednecks. If you watched the Mummers parade today, you saw a bunch of Delco bigots who wouldn't know a tractor from a turnip truck. But those guys sure looked pretty in their dresses.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

Exactly, and a lot of the people who were at Jan 6 were from upper middle class suburban white america who flew in to DC taking time off from their cushy jobs to larp as revolutionaries.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is a big point. I briefly took a job in Northern California two years ago and met more openly-racist bigots and transphobes than I ever met in my Appalachian hometown

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I've made comments about how Mississippians are not what they're made out to be. Not a welcome comment around here.

[–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There's an important distinction to be made between rednecks and hillbillies. The south would like you toe believe that anything non-urban is redneck, this is not so.

[–] flicker@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Hillbillies are generally a specific type of non urban. Here in Appalachia we refer to them as off the mountain. You don't just run into hillbillies. You have to go where they go.

The rest of us are rednecks. I don't think redneck is "everyone south and rural" but it's pretty close.

[–] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I had no idea what you were talking about but JFC what a cringy bunch of freaks. The Wikipedia article had photos that turned my stomach.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's a longstanding Philadelphia tradition with a problematic history of casual and overt racism.

[–] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s problematic just because of the stupid shit they’re wearing. WTF?!?!

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Some of the costumes are rather intricate and impressive. And then sometimes they're racist. People who defend the Mummers try to pretend the bigots have been removed and prohibited frim returning, but this year some bigots attacked the crowd while waving MAGA flag.

The musical acts are good, though. Lotta fun for the kids.

[–] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago

I’m sure the kids love a spectacle but the aesthetic of it all makes feel physically ill.

[–] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's a joke about Green Day's recent concert where they replaced the line "I'm not a part of the redneck agenda" with "I'm not a part of the MAGA agenda" in their song American Idiot.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago
[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Yep. I would say im pretty redneck and given the chance id kick him in his tiny orange cock.

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Just carrying on the long long history of punishing the workers who dared take up arms to defend themselves a century ago.

Unlikely to change any time soon. That punishment has included the above derision, plastered all over all forms of media for decades. As well as generational economic punishment. GovCo shat on Appalachia from such a height they've never yet recovered and likely never will. Look at the response to the devastation from that hurricane.

Only people on this continent that got a worse hand are the indigenous and black folks in southern states.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It also didn't work for Hilary in spectacular fashion.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago
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[–] Just_Pizza_Crust@lemmy.world 77 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Cody Barlow ain't no bigot

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago

Fuck off no they ain't.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

When I was dating, I laughingly told a girl I was "kinda redneck".

"Uh, exactly how redneck?"

"I loathe Trump and don't start me on January 6th. If that's what you're asking."

"Whew. Just checking."

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I like huntin', fishin', farmin', shootin' the revenuers that try to bust my still and steal my 'shine, and I stand in solidarity with my fellow workers against the evils of capitalism.

Is that sufficiently redneck?

(I don't actually like fishing; I think it's boring, and I don't like fish very much.)

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

LOL, I'm on the water with my kayaks, canoe and little plastic boat, "Caught anything?"

"Uh, no. Just stopping on sandbanks and drinking Keystones. Walking around the woods and such. Uh, how about you? Catch anything?"

[–] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 36 points 11 months ago

This is some full-on stirrin'-somes-shit probably-russian/chinese-originated bullshit meant to divide folks up. Real rednecks would never hand their liberty to some two-bit lyin sack of shit New York Billionaire landlord's son swindler like Trump

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Rednecks are historically left. Big on unions.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Historically Republicans were instrumental in abolishing slavery. Today's version wants it back.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Not the indiana kind.

Source: I grew up a conservative indiana flatbilly.

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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 11 months ago

I've been described by people as redneck, but I'm not remotely MAGA

...and therefore I support Green Day dunking on MAGA instead of me XD

[–] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 28 points 11 months ago

Bullshit

I'm born and raised in Appalachia, my daddy worked in the coal mines and drove an 18 wheeler. Certified redneck enough that I confuse the shit out of my New England neighbors.

I went out and marched with striking nurses when Bernie put out the call, and I've never voted Republican in my entire fucking life.

OP, you need to learn what a redneck is.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

I live in Oklahoma, drive an Old Green Truck™, have a lazy dog of unknown breed, and I work in a machine shop. Last week my neighbor and I rebuilt a motorcycle engine and put it in his bike. My wife and I have chickens. I'm a pretty sterotypical "redneck".

I've voted democrat in every election since 2000.

It sounds like OP is terribly confused, and is associating people from two different groups while they really have nothing in common, which is something MAGA dipshits also do.

[–] Dr_Fetus_Jackson@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

It would appear that based blanket statements aren't the sole domain of MAGA shitbags.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

This look MAGA to you OP?

Pictured:

  • /r/liberalgunowners patch
  • Ukraine patch
  • Imperial Storm Trooper AR-15 (OK, you kinda got me on that one.)
  • wife's Christmas present (hot pink Bersa Thunder .380)
  • Pilipino flag
  • 20-yo hat, bought before assholes took over the flag
  • 20-round mag, kinda prefer the 10s, standard 30s are a bit much for reasons

Not pictured:

OK, the crushed Keystone cans scream redneck, but not MAGA.

To top it off, that's in Florida, where it's perfectly OK to paint us with a fat "conservative asshole who deserves whatever happens to them" brush.

And 01/06 gave me fucking PTSD thank you very fucking much. And I don't say that lightly.

(Glad I took a minute on this post! Found some cool new patches.)

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Gonna be straight, the hand guard doesn't scream MAGA, but it's kinda borderline fudd-y. :P A carbon fiber M-LOK hand guard and a low-profile gas block would be better, unless you're reeeeaaaaaalllllly attached to that A2 front sight post.

I still prefer the 30 round magazines, since they're cheap, easy to find, and are better for making it through high round count matches without lots of reloads. :)

As an aside to all of that, when I talk to younger people at matches--I'm probably about your age, maybe a little older--many of them are in favor of things Dems say that they're in favor of (except gun control). I think that's one of the sticking points for a lot of the younger rednecks in rural parts of the country.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Imma be dumb here, but I think the holes in the hand guard are M-LOK? Not looking to attach tools there in any case.

low-profile gas block

Uh, you lost me, but I'm listening. LOL, this is why I went with a plain Ruger Whiteout. Still learning, but didn't want to fuck up rolling my own.

And yes, I'm loving the A2 sight. Practicality aside, I saw this on sale and thought, "Huh. M16 in Star Wars? Sold." The light is a normal Olight I happened to have, but it glares on the front sight. Can't find it again, but someone posted a nice adapter that would throw it out further. Know what I'm talking about? Couldn't find one at the time.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Apolopgies for this wall; I'm literally autistic, and guns have been one of my particular areas of interest for, um, 40-odd years.

That style of hand guard, AFAIK, doesn't accept M-LOK or keymod accessories. I can't be sure though; what you'd be looking for is something like this -> https://www.aeroprecisionusa.com/ar15-atlas-s-one-m-lok-handguard The slots are what the M-LOK mounts go into. (Aero Precision is kinda pricey, IMO.) The added benefit is that it floats your barrel; it's only connected to the upper receiver, and not the barrel, so you can get slightly better accuracy out of it.

You can get the metal parts of the rifle cerakoted white, if that's of interest to you.

You can get a gas block that fits under your hand guard. That allows your hand guard can go all the way to the end of your barrel which gives you more options for mounting accessories and hand positioning. Gas blocks come in a variety of styles, but a fixed and pinned (e.g., held on with a roll pin) block will work for almost everyone. An adjustable gas block may be better for people that are running silencers, since that affects gas pressure in the system, but I have no direct experience with them since silencers are $$$. If you replace the hand guard with an M-LOK hand guard, you'll need to replace the front sight with a low profile gas block.

I'm personally not a fan of iron sights because my eyes suck. I use an LPVO and a canted red dot, and that's worked very well for me. I can reliably hit targets out to 340y (or, that's the longest I've shot to, and that was at a match), and there's no way in hell I'd be able to to that with irons.

FWIW, AR-15s are basically like Legos for adults; they're almost infinitely modular, and most parts work just fine with other parts as long as they're from reputable manufacturers.

I don't know about Olight adapters specifically, but I've seen LEP heads for Surefire bodies. IIRC the Blazer LEP Z-Bolt is good to at least 300y, and it's bright. There's very little spill; it's very, very focused. I've shot out to 150y with a Streamlight ProTAC; it's not great at that distance, but it works. It's got a lot of spill and decent throw, so you still have peripheral sight.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

According to the US government, the most dangerous thing in this picture is that bag of Kinder Surprise chocolates

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

This isn't helping, and it isn't true.

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

But musicians shouldn't get political! That song was never political before! Wah!

Heavy on the /s

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 points 10 months ago

Eat shit OP. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 1 points 3 months ago

I’m a lefty to the bone and have been since I was a kid. I’ve spent most of my life in the south and have met some amazing redneck folks that don’t fit into this mold.

Basically, don’t put your potential working class allies into a box.

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