Israel hits Bethlehem in Christmas raids on occupied West Bank : worldnews

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 35 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Bombing fucking Bethlehem on Christmas is just such over the top cartoonishly evil shit and pro-Zionist (fascist) liberals still fucking defend this shit.

[–] Dreamer@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 months ago

Some humans insist on being rotten.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hey! Just for fact's sake - not trying to minimize Israel attacking Bethlehem on Christmas - the article doesn't mention any bombing of Bethlehem, it was a harassing raid by ground forces that arrested a few people as part of an intimidation campaign against the west bank.

Regions in and near Nablus, Jericho, Ramallah and Bethlehem – which Christians believe is the birthplace of Jesus Christ – were also raided overnight by Israeli forces, Al Jazeera’s Hamdah Salhut reported.

Obviously that's still vile and again shows how close the army and illegal settlers are. But a raid rather than bombing.

[–] Dreamer@lemmy.ml 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You are right. Within the past few months, Israel has bombed some areas in the West Bank, but Bethlehem is currently not one of them.

[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 2 points 8 months ago

Liberals support this do they? I doubt anyone getting arrested at the protests for 'hate crimes' has come down from Chipping Norton.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

Most Moral Army on Earth, everybody

[+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] Jordan_U@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Considering some humans to be "not humans" is a primary tool of fascism.

Probably best to avoid de-humanizing anyone if you truly want to end fascism rather than re-create it under a different name.

Humans can do terrible, abhorrent things. It's good for us to remember that, as we are also human; And capable of the same atrocities if we aren't careful and vigilant.

[–] boyi@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 8 months ago

they're human, but inhuman.

[–] Boff@beehaw.org 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

~~Jesus what a trash headline. The article says nothing about Israel attacking Bethlehem or anywhere in the West Bank. The article only says people in Bethlehem are sad about what is happening.~~

~~Yes, there is a lot of bad stuff that the Israeli government does, but don't blatantly lie about stuff that doesn't happen like the truth doesn't matter~~.

Edit: The first article was hidden by the way my lemmy app handles links vs comment bodies and i misunderstood what I was clicking.

[–] diverging@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

There are two articles in this post. The title you complain about is from the one you didn't read.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/25/israel-intensifies-occupied-west-bank-raids-on-christmas-day
https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2023/12/24/muted-christmas-as-palestinian-christians-mourn-for-gaza

[–] Boff@beehaw.org 5 points 8 months ago

Thank you for correcting me! I got confused by how my lemmy app displays links vs links in comments.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The article says in the second paragraph that Bethlehem was "hit" with a raid by Israel.

[–] Boff@beehaw.org 2 points 8 months ago

Thank you for correcting me, I got confused with how my lemmy app displays links vs links in the post body

[+] Fitik@kbin.social -22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

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[–] Dreamer@lemmy.ml 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I love the insinuation being made here. It's like watching a real-time Holocaust denial unfold.

Just out of curiosity, what is your definition of a respectable source?

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Newsmax

[+] Fitik@kbin.social -12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

@Dreamer Source having high factual reports and fact checking their sources instead of just posting their agenda? https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ is usually pretty good even if it's not perfect

[–] Dreamer@lemmy.ml 15 points 8 months ago

"Media Bias/Fact Check rarely conducts original fact checks as many other sources are faster and do a better job. We primarily rely on fact-checkers affiliated with the International Fact-Checking Network (IFCN)."

Source: Media Bias Fact Check

Writers at the Poynter Institute, which develops PolitiFact, have stated that "Media Bias/Fact Check is a widely cited source for news stories and even studies about misinformation, despite the fact that its method is in no way scientific." In 2018, a writer in the Columbia Journalism Review described Media Bias/Fact Check as "an armchair media analysis" and characterized their assessments as "subjective assessments [that] leave room for human biases, or even simple inconsistencies, to creep in".

Source: Wikipedia

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Now this is good bait; kudos, to you! I can barely tell if you're trolling

[–] Boff@beehaw.org 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

NYT reported on the increased raids in the Jenin refugee camp: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/24/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-war-west-bank-jenin.html

NYT is still a pretty respectable source, plus it floats more pro Israel than Al Jazeera.

This article doesn't specifically say anything about a Christmas day raid though.

[–] Fitik@kbin.social -3 points 8 months ago

@Boff

This article doesn’t specifically say anything about a Christmas day raid though.

That's my point, also it talks about Jenin, not Bethelem like Al-Jazeera claims

@Dreamer

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Counter disclaimer, AJE does great work and is only lambasted by low information racists

[–] Boff@beehaw.org -4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

~~Al Jazeera isn't even reporting on it. The article OP linked doesn't say anything about Israel attacking anywhere in the West Bank, let alone Bethlehem.~~

~~It just says people in Bethlehem are sad that people in gaza are dying.~~

~~The OP is clearly lying to try to drum up anti Israeli support by putting a blatantly false headline and hyping nobody does any research. Disgusting.~~

Edit: The first article was hidden by the way my lemmy app handles links vs comment bodies and i misunderstood what I was clicking.

[–] Fitik@kbin.social -4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

@Boff Yep, but folk on there is completly Anti-Israel so they don't really care.

@Dreamer

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