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CNN reporting on some interesting survey results from the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research in Ramallah. Seven hundred and fifty adults were interviewed face to face in the West Bank, and 481 were interviewed in Gaza, also in person. The Gaza data collection was done during the recent truce, when it was safer for researchers to move about.

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[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 47 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Of course they’re going to support fighting back against a nation murdering their children in broad daylight while the world watches, who could blame them? Many probably didn’t hold those sentiments before this “reprisal” but now..

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Eh, that's not quite what the survey respondents are saying. It's not as simple as "support war, yes or no?":

The survey, which has a four-point margin of error (rather than the usual three-point), found that almost three-quarters (72%) of all respondents believe Hamas’s decision to launch its attack on Israel on October 7 was “correct.” Less than a quarter (22%) said it was “incorrect.”

They're very clearly in favor of the initial attack, not just the response. And it goes further:

In Gaza, support for armed struggle has risen only slightly from 50% in September 2022 (a year before the current war) to 56% in December 2023. In the West Bank, however, support has been rising dramatically from 35% in September 2022 to 54% in September 2023 (a month before the war). This month, polled support for armed struggle reached 68% in the West Bank.

And:

But Shikaki cautions that higher support for Hamas should not be over-stated, at least not yet. As more Palestinians come to terms with the atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7, so attitudes could change — though that is unlikely to be the case so long as Gaza remains under massive attack.

Important again is how many people have watched videos from October 7 and the differences between the territories. In Gaza, 25% of those asked said they had viewed such videos; and 16% of all respondents told researchers Hamas had committed war crimes. In the West Bank, the corresponding numbers were just 7% and 1%.

Gaza is moving out of denial more quickly than the West Bank, Shikaki says, and that means a reckoning for Hamas. Already, only 38% of Gazans want to see the militant group return to governance after the war.

[–] triclops6@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is the part that's Western media doesn't show: Hamas support and animosity towards Israel predates the October attacks, it's a big part of why the Israeli government is responding this way.

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

I think most Palestinians have some sort of animosity towards Israel for a long time due to apartheid.

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[–] duffman@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why does every post miss the fact this poll is about support for the Oct 7th attack, which is what directly lead to the "murdering their children" part.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Hamas performed a terrorist attack, Israel responded with genocide. Not equitable actions there

[–] LaChaleurDeLaNuit@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

When you say a nation murdering their children you're talking about palestinians slaughtering Israelis , right? Oh no that's right, even though terrorists filmed everything, it's only justified since those civilians were evil Jews. https://thisishamas.com/

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Never said that, both parties have committed war crimes, there is no good situation out of this. Genocide is wrong

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Nice whataboutism, did you learn that in kindergarten?

[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

No, they're talking about reality, not Israeli propaganda with no sources

[–] GutsBerserk@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Not surprising at all. When you see people around you dying, you either flee or fight... rest is all BS orchestrated by Zionist run media. The core is simple enough.

[–] duffman@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

The poll is about the Oct 7th attack.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Zionist run media. You're saying Israel owns CNN?

[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Cooperate media has shareholders. Those are pro Israel. So is the US government that imposes its influence as well.

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[–] Lophostemon@aussie.zone 9 points 8 months ago

I can’t imagine why, considering how marvellously calm, restrained, and mature Israel has been. I mean it’s not like Israel has been indiscriminately bombing children or something…?

[–] Cymphoni_Fantastique@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

No! That's just what they want! No good will come of it and more people will die! Stay strong, Palestine! The world is with you!

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 1 points 8 months ago

Only one side will win.

[–] blahsay@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Hamas is was and is a popular government. Sad given they haven't exactly steered Gaza to a good place.

I'm aware Israel is responsible for leveling Gaza but coming after the hostages was obviously going to happen - what's Hamas's end goal here?

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

what’s Hamas’s end goal here?

Rebellion.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Have you read their charter principles?

[–] triclops6@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Noone seems to read anything here "anymore" .. last few months, I don't comment at all without opening the article. It becomes really clear that the worst commenters are not

[–] variaatio@sopuli.xyz 0 points 8 months ago

No it really isn't that popular, based on polling done just before the Hamas attack.

Like it is among the most supported among Palestinians, but that leaves out the little matter of majority of Palestinians support no one, trust no one. They support no one, see no hope of better future with any path and pretty much are living due to day trying to manage the practical matters of their lives.

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