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[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 195 points 6 months ago

[-] EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Idk about always But my rule of thumb is If they don't sell the games anymore Then pirate away

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 148 points 6 months ago

"This is what you get for having the name Bowser without our express written consent."

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[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 92 points 6 months ago

I hope Garry becomes a monk that makes no wage. At that point there's literally no point in continuing waged work

[-] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

He was interviewed/was the topic of a Darknet Dairies Podcast. It's his side of the story as well as some of the facts around the case. Don't know how accurate it is, but it is interesting all the same.

Episode 136

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[-] starchylemming@lemmy.world 56 points 6 months ago

wat

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 223 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

He was part of a team that created devices allowing people to play what they wanted on switch, 3DS and some other consoles. He was convicted of fraud and imprisoned for two years before being released. He still has to pay off a fine of 10 million dollars so Nintendo is garnishing his wages for the rest of his life. ~~Which pisses me off because he's on Disability in Canada which is barely enough to live on (trust me...) and also taxpayer funds.~~ Not to mention that there is no way in fucking hell that his part in all of this adds up to $10 million dollars in lost revenue for Nintendo which is exactly why that fine was applied.

Edit: Apparently disability can't be garnished. Was a slight fuck up on my end. I had misremembered something and misread something which led to that. Nonetheless, situation still massively fucked for applying a $10 million (well, 14.5 million but 10 million of that is for Nintendo) fine for a dude who made $320,000 off of the hacks. However if he did make any money outside of Disability, they would immediately be entitled to 30% of it. Fucking insane.

[-] Transcendant@lemmy.world 128 points 6 months ago

I get that they have to protect their IP, but $14m is insane. Feels like the judge threw the book, switch, 3DS and every other console they could find at him. Does he have no right of appeal against the sentence?

When Bowser was first sentenced, Nintendo's lawyer Ajay Singh said in a court transcript (via Axios) that the company wanted to "send a message" to other Switch hackers.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought sentencing was supposed to reflect the severity of the crime and make fair restitution? It sounds as if this sentence / restitution was massively inflated to create a deterrant, to benefit a private business. Huge fail from Nintendo imo that only makes me want to never buy one of their games or consoles again.

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 95 points 6 months ago

It was put through the American Legal system. There is absolutely zero reason to believe that the justice system of America actually contains any justice in the first place. Of course they sided with the international corporation to fuck over a disabled 50 year old.

[-] Chriswild@lemmy.world 44 points 6 months ago

The American legal system has always been there to protect the capitalist class.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Nuh uh, it's also there to punish minorities for existing

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[-] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 39 points 6 months ago

whatever do you mean? are you suggesting that there are decades of evidence that the us justice system is a bad joke played on the minorities and/or disenfranchised, and then only functions to line/protect the pockets of the upper class and ultra-wealthy? preposterous!

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago

I wish we had lemmy gold... Well this is as good as I got. Lemmy Silver.

[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

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[-] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago

Of course a silver figurine of Saint Lemmy exists because why not.

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 months ago

We need a silver can of beans to give people

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[-] SCB@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought sentencing was supposed to reflect the severity of the crime and make fair restitution? I

These look like punitive damages designed to dissuade others from repeating what he did.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 67 points 6 months ago

Nintedo lawyers are second only to Disney Lawyers. Fuck nintendo.

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[-] aniki@lemm.ee 25 points 6 months ago

If the lay-flat movement ever needed a figurehead.....

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[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 49 points 6 months ago

That situation is fucked and I'm definitely siding with Gary. He deserves so much better. Fuck Sintendo

[-] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 49 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Here is a Darknet Diaries episode about it where Garry Bowser talks about that and his history of modding devices and Team Executer

Pretty interesting if you have an hour and a half to kill.

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[-] threethan@reddthat.com 34 points 6 months ago

Not saying that the punishment is proportional, but this guy isn't exactly a hero.

Team Executor stole open source code from the Atmosphere project and then sold it as SXOS with added DRM that could permanently brick systems.

[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago

Yeah but not "30% of his income for the rest of his life" evil, even more so since I think he wasn't even a dev on the project but just a web master for their site.