I agree. But to me personally, I think people Oh lemmy WANT censorship and so forth. Really kills the experience honestly
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I think the general idea behind Lemmy and activity pub was not to have all the instances and groups on one server to begin with. It's just that some of the older users of Lemmy/kbin/mastodon, already had the servers up and running instead of people creating own self-hosted instances.
The intention was more for one server to host one instance on a specific topic and then federate with the rest of the community. That server would just be in control of that one instance, like a subreddit on Reddit's main site.
Instead what you had was three or four people who were used to the back end software, creating a bunch of groups or letting be created a bunch of groups on their instance. This is going to centralize the population to certain servers instead of ending up with thousands of small federated servers.
And once the personal belief systems and moderation start seeping into all groups on that server we're going to see problems. The more control one single person has, the higher the likelihood is that they're going to start abusing the power in some way, even if they don't think it's an abuse their selves.
The fact that users can easily move to another instance will serve as something of a check and balance against this kind of behavior by mods and admins though, wouldnโt it?
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nice to hear that about open federation. I feel that the real benefit of the concept of federation is decentralization - and de-federating like beehaw did just ruins that.
Instances that defederate are at a disadvantage though, because it hurts their users. There is a natural incentive to stay federated. Defederation is really a nuclear-scale moderation tool, and it's one of the founding principles of the fediverse: independant administration. If you don't like some administrators, vote them out by joining an instance that better matches your needs instead.
In any case, the admins of these instances are collaborating and have stated that this is a temporary measure untill better mod tools become available. I'm not worried at all.
But no doubt by, some communities are going to be just so at odds, that it's probably best if there are mechanisms to keep them separated. And you know what? That's just fine.
I honestly don't see anything of value being lost. They can wall off into their own echochamber and the rest of us can communicate freely.
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Fuck beehaw!