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[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago (7 children)

What's with Klingons using cloaking technology?

Isn't that a pretty dishonorable way to fight? How do they square that circle?

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Klingons are traditionally a standin in Star Trek for the Red Scare (60s era caricature of communism). What you have to understand is that the cold war of the era was simultaneously a display of might, but also fraught with spycraft. The Klingons had to represent both of these fears. You couldn't see what was happening on the other side of the iron curtain (cloaked).

Practically, they later created the technobabble rule that you had to drop your cloak to fire. That somewhat squares the circle regarding honourable combat, while still allowing Klingons to scheme.

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Really cool analysis, thank you.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People who discuss the contradictory and hypocritical nature of Klingon honor are without honor.

[–] teft@startrek.website 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] JTheDoc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They must be dishonored in the most honourable way.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I really appreciate the in-universe analysis presented here. Thanks.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I think that "Balance of Terror" was the very first episode of Star Trek to feature ship to ship combat with a near peer adversary. The Romulans in that episode got cloaking technology because the screenplay was ripped straight from a WWII submarine movie.

I guess after that point the "submarine" tropes got established, because that style of combat was basically doctrine up until Star Trek (2009).

[–] shutz@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While the simple explanation that Klingons can get honor to mean whatever they want (see Worf's "discommendation" arc on TNG, for instance) holds some weight in explaining this, I like to think of Klingons as hunters, as much as warriors. When you hunt, you don't announce your presence to your prey. You hide until the moment when you pounce and attack. The cloak fits if you look at it this way, at least.

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I actually really like this thought. That never occurred to me before.

[–] Shawdow194@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

To be fair I bet it was developed to directly compete against cloaked Romulan craft

[–] JWBananas@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago

Nothing is more honorable than victory

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] 7of9@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago

Call me Tasha 'cause I'm posting this reply on Android!

[–] TotallyNotSpez@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Made my day, thank you. I'd like to share the pic with my Trekkie friends if that's grand with you. :)

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't claim this one - I just found it elsewhere. But even if it was one of my edits, you're more than welcome to share anything I post!

[–] TotallyNotSpez@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Thank you. I'll kindly remember that when your next amazing OC meme drops. :)

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Resistance is futile.

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[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Putting deep field images in this sub is just cruelty. We'll be long dead before we depart this planet, much less head for other galaxies.

An android could beat this one better than a person

https://youtu.be/IIFjFF_BzY8?si=4zgwwA3PDBghS-pB

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Obviously the two squares top right.

[–] brymc81@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Obviously the horizontal middle three, with wing tip guns protruding into the bottom left and right