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Boris Johnson tasked security force to plan a raid on a vaccine plant in the Netherlands
(www.theguardian.com)
How is this NOT the Onion?
this post was submitted on 05 Dec 2023
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Wow, imagine how bad this would be if the Dutch had the ability to think less of the English.
Edit: I imagine the plan involved British agents smelling like weed and standing in the bike lane yelling "woooo!" so as to go unnoticed.
This is the UK version of nuking hurricanes 🤣
Wouldn't this invoke NATO against the UK and demand a lot of reparations?
I assume you mean Article 5, and no, yes, maybe, but probably no.
Article 5's requirement is that the members convene to discuss a response to an attack, not an obligation to attack.
Furthermore, this sounds more like an even dumber dumb Watergate, but with arguably, a moral justification i.e. covert burglary, maybe even armed robbery, for vaccines contracted to the UK.
Article 42.7 of the EU Charta would also apply and is a bit more direct:
If a Member State is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other Member States shall have towards it an obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power
It is not armed robbery when the military is sent to another country. war is ultimately always about ressources, so you could argue every war to just be an armed robbery gone wrong.
If someone sends their military to another coubtry without this countries explicit consent it is an act of war.
You can semantically argue anything you want, but ultimately I can't imagine any scenario where this would have been an actual war, or even resembling one.
If the goal was to seize assets contained within a one, or just several buildings, the most likely way this would have played out would have been covert foreign intelligence teams, not an SAS commando raid with a bodycount.
Would it have been incredibly dumb, and probably end up with the intelligence officers/assets arrested? Sure.
Would it have been anything like a HVT snatch and grab in Afghanistan? No. Just no.
Like I said, an even dumber, dumb Watergate.
Yes I meant article 5 but did not remember the number 🙈🙈. Thanks!
Article 5 has been invoked once, the US invoked it during 9/11. They asked for some extra air reconnaissance around the middle east, and basically to have allies be ready for joint action that never materialized. Article 5 is not an immediate declaration of war or anything.
I always thought ISAF was the NATO 5 action.
I must admit I didn’t really pay attention to the legalities back then though.
Thats the same question as with Greece and Turkey.
But in the end the entire EU would stand against them for shure. And USA would either not interfere or be on EUs side.
Not much of a question. If a NATO country attacks another NATO country then the attacked country still has the right to invoke article 5.
Nah, not if the UK calls it the Leiden Invasion Act /s
they called it "special operation"
What in the actual fucking fuck lol. I mean, times seemed dire but Jesus fucking Christ on rollerskates.
That's Christ on rollerskates alright but where's Jesus doing the fucking?
He's on his way to your mom give him a second, damn
With that skates maybe two.
My mom is dead so that checks out. Thanks for checking on her.
Of course that's a thing on the internet.
Of course that's a thing, because it's an AI image (with quite a few obvious flaws at that). You can just put your sentence into a generator and get something at least resembling what you thought about.
With friends like these, right?
"gentlemen, can you look uhm... for me... in a theoretical capacity... if we could just politely raid the Netherlands for vaccines...perhaps even announce to them, that we'd feel it's best not to raid them even though the option... was discussed."
Only Trump is worse than this guy, what an imbecile ...
Not to take away from the sentiment but.....
I'd include Putin, Xi, and Kim in that list.
Even in the UK there are a couple of candidates. Nigel Farage, Suella Braverman, at least half of the DUP,...
Kim may be a horrible person but she isn't a politician yet so I don't think she qualifies.
Lol! I meant Kim Jong Un.
But I know you're joking..!
That hair tho
It’s somehow stupider than him
Lol so fucking stupid
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Boris Johnson’s appearance before the Covid-19 inquiry is not until Wednesday but it is already making headlines in the Netherlands amid a mixture of amusement and alarm at claims he asked for British spies to plan a “raid” on a Dutch vaccine plant.
The operation – according to sources who briefed Johnson’s employer, the Daily Mail – would have taken place against the backdrop of a tit-for-tat row in March 2021 between the then prime minister and the EU, which was moving towards restricting exports of vaccines across the Channel.
An “enraged” Johnson asked security services to draw up “military options” to obtain “impounded” doses of AstraZeneca vaccine from a plant in Leiden after Britain had negotiated a deal with the company.
But while Britain’s security services were spared their biggest debacle on Dutch soil since Operation Market Garden, the claim has been widely reported on front pages in the Netherlands.
Elsewhere, Russian state media generated a po-faced report on the claims, interspersing clips of Johnson with footage of British special forces and overlaying them with a sinister backing track.
Johnson is expected to admit some fault when he is cross examined at the inquiry but will also seek to talk up the things that he believed he got right, ranging from the vaccines rollout to eventually opening up the economy.
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Looking at his Hairstyle and his crazy Ideas... Maybe he DID comb his Hair with a Hammer.
He intentionally messes up his hair to appear more likeable, because he's a manipulative piece of shit who is incapable of not lying, even with his appearance.
The EU should increase its export tax on food products to the UK by 500% for a month and compensate the affected farmers.
Let them have a christmas on potato and chlorinated chicken.
The EU doesn’t use food and medicine as a weapon. Even Russia is still getting all the food and medicine they want to import.
It wouldnt be weaponized. The UK can still buy these products. It is only that the sale would incurr an additional tax that has to be paid by the exporting company.
Also the EU supports the US in its sanctions against Iran and has supported the sanctions against Iraq, that killed more than half a Million Iraqi childrens in the 90s by affecting food and medicine. The reimposed sanctions have lead to drastic inflation for food and rising food insecurity in Iran.
So it is not a moral stance of the EU. It is purely strategical and i find a strategic response to invasion plans perfectly appropriate
You’re literally suggesting weaponising tariffs.
How is it "weaponized"? A weapon can injure and kill someone. If the UK needs to pay more for vegetables they import from countries they deemed an invasion discussable for, then this is hardly "weaponized". If the UK fails to provide its citizens with normal goods then it is an expression of systematic failure. Also the EU used tariffs on food products to handle the trade war instigated by Trump. How is that not an appropriate response to plans of a military invasion?
Making food too expensive to acquire and causing malnourishment or starvation is literally injuring or killing people‽‽‽
The british government has more than enough money to cover for its people. Poverty in Britain is deliberately caused by the british government, not by a lack of wealth of the overall nation. Also Britain can still buy enough veggies from the US and China. They just wont be fresh.
The government isn't the one paying the tariffs though??
Sounds like a great idea, I'm sure that'll be a top quality learning experience for the poor who are already facing a cost of living crisis, that'll really teach them...
Dead cat dead cat dead cat
Totally. The fact that this was released well before his appearance by his own camp smells very dead catish.