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A fellow mod informed me that about it as I was laying in bed. Reddit sent a message to the mod team and after 1 hour demoded me. I didn't even had time to see it, never-mind respond to it.

Looks like we rattled reddit enough to start shooting. There goes all that fancy talk about our protest not affecting them much.

Just FYI for now. It's late here so I'll see how we proceed tomorrow.

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[–] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 76 points 2 years ago (6 children)

This could not be any funnier. Please reddit, take legal control of the piracy subreddit, right as you take the experienced mod team out. I'm sure everything will go fantastic.

[–] bootyberrypancakes@lemmywinks.xyz 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Reddit will sure be a lovely site in a few months…

[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

May their shareholders weep.

[–] hemmes@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago

If you take away what the people want

You’re gonna have a bad time. ⛷️

[–] PB-and-Jon@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

I'm sad to see what has happened to the community I've been a part of for the better part of my life.

[–] CrimsonOnoscopy@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago

[removed by reddit]

[–] sharpsphere@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

they're gonna love that sweet, sweet liability

[–] mithis@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

I heard Disney really likes it when their content is shared through Reddit without them getting a cut of the profits. ;)

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[–] Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Haha what the fuck I really did NOT think they would do that to r/piracy of all things. Ah well fuck them and their shitty IPO. I‘m here with you guys for good, the structure of the fediverse suits our purposes and community better anyway.

[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would imagine that can lead to legal troubles endorsing r/piracy willingly?

Accepting it is one thing, but forcing it to open is entirely different.

[–] Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago

I would imagine too, but who knows, there is a different set of rules for companies and the rich.

Now that Reddit is asserting direct control over it, maybe they‘ll turn it into an anti-piracy sub to prevent any legal trouble.

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Well I guess its time to flood r/piracy with magnet links as soon as the new jannies open it.

[–] frozengriever@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Also worth flooding them with ~~links~~ a map to where they can board the new ship where the 🏴‍☠️ flag still flies high.

[–] primaryuser@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Bonus points if they're Nintendo games!

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[–] sol87@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

"In analyzing the availability of the immunity offered by Section 230, courts generally apply a three-prong test. A defendant must satisfy each of the three prongs to gain the benefit of the immunity:

  1. The defendant must be a "provider or user" of an "interactive computer service".
  2. The cause of action asserted by the plaintiff must treat the defendant as the "publisher or speaker" of the harmful information at issue.

3. The information must be "provided by another information content provider", i.e., the defendant must not be the "information content provider" of the harmful information at issue."

If Reddit the company is now picking and choosing who approves or blocks harmful information, are they an information content provider now? Are they liable if their chosen mods allow harmful content?

[–] riskable@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not sure about the optics of Reddit force-reenabling a subreddit devoted to piracy LOL

[–] VeeSilverball@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Coming soon: rebranding /r/piracy to "pirate cosplay"

[–] overzeetop@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Nothing but pictures of John Oliver in maritime garb.

[–] Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

r/piracy after the IPO: piracy is unethical as it is stealing from the poor (companies). This is a community to discuss how to stop piracy and become responsible and dutiful consumers.

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[–] dogmuffins@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago

This is happening all over reddit.

Mods are posting all over the place saying "I have to bend over for the admins because if I don't they'll find someone else who will".

You do you but honestly I find this a bit weird. As an unpaid volunteer you don't have to do anything. Just resign. Reddit's not about to die but it's best days are in the past. I wouldn't want to be a part of the future of reddit.

[–] arkcom@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Obvious that this is automated and will be going out to all subs. They definitely wouldn't go to bat to keep a piracy sub open, unless they're even dumber than I thought.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

automated message, sure. But they demoded just me, which is obviously very exact.

[–] VeryAmaze@vlemmy.net 2 points 2 years ago

An interesting point about this, is that previously when people would try to gain control over subs with inactive mods the admins would drag their feet as much as possible. (I'm part of a sub where it took almost a year via several requests for the group of new mods to gain ownership of the sub).
But now some fee-fees got hurt and admins go nuclear and removes mods at lightspeed...

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[–] Mastersord@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So Reddit is forcing open a piracy sub. I wonder how potential investors would feel about that?

[–] chris@lem.cochrun.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

This needs so much more noise! If only some of us were part of major news channels, more shareholders need to know now that reddit is in IPO process. It'll hurt bad.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If reddit decides to moderate the Piracy subreddit directly, does that mean that they'll be responsible to respond to DMCA requests? If so, that's going to be a shitshow all in itself.

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

They are. That's why they're banning subs that are sharing links. R/piracy doesn't allow the sharing of direct links

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh shit, I didn't even notice what subreddit this was. Please PLEASE someone kick down their door (with legal actions) over this.

[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

Imagine fucking up that hard that pirates endorse DMCA

[–] onepinksheep@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So basically, according to Reddit, they own everything on Reddit. That means all the the CP, hate speech — and in this case, piracy — that are posted on Reddit are Reddit's responsibility. Bold strategy, cotton. They're basically waiving their net neutrality.

[–] Lorez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That means all the the CP, hate speech — and in this case, piracy — that are posted on Reddit are Reddit’s responsibility.

Of course not, from reddit's ToS: "By submitting Your Content to the Services, you represent and warrant that you have all rights, power, and authority necessary to grant the rights to Your Content contained within these Terms. Because you alone are responsible for Your Content, you may expose yourself to liability if you post or share Content without all necessary rights.

You retain any ownership rights you have in Your Content, but you grant Reddit the following license to use that Content:

When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now known or later developed anywhere in the world. This license includes the right for us to make Your Content available for syndication, broadcast, distribution, or publication by other companies, organizations, or individuals who partner with Reddit. You also agree that we may remove metadata associated with Your Content, and you irrevocably waive any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to Your Content." --https://www.redditinc.com/policies/user-agreement-september-12-2021

[–] onepinksheep@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That's their TOS. Their actions recently — namely undeleting user posts and comments — run directly counter to their TOS. They're essentially claiming ownership of the user submitted content by doing that.

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[–] Spzi@lemmy.click 4 points 2 years ago

Whenever you see inserted words, please imagine an awkwardly moving but very colorful parrot squawking it.

The ability to ~~find and~~ make these ~~connections~~ prrrofits is incredibly important to ~~many people~~ ourrr sharrreholders, and ensuring that active communities are able to remain [a] stable and active ~~(and open)~~ source of prrrofits is very important forrr us!

Our goal here is to work ~~with~~ the existing mod team ~~to find a path forward~~ into exile and make sure your subreddit is usable for the ~~community~~ company which makes its ~~home~~ monnney here.

[–] citable6704@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago

1: Funny we were all in here like two days ago saying "they'll probably be happy to have the piracy sub gone"

2: Any member of the existing mod team that helps them is a fucking scab

3: Everyone else has made a good point about some potential liability issues of reddit the corporation wresting control of the piracy subreddit into their own hands

4: There are so many layers of irony with a corporation saying people need to have access to the community that tells them how to commit copyright infringement and then forcing that information into the open despite what its caretakers wish.

[–] rvreq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This bullshit made me nuke my 30k karma account. I hope lemmy won't die month later.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (12 children)

That's literally impossible! An instance may go down, but it will stay cached.

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[–] CorncobTV@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Lemmy it is, then.

[–] ethane@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Make sure you remove any and all bots created, and delete all the custom work you did. Reddit can probably restore it, but it'll take them time and effort to do so.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They can restore the bot accounts, sure, but they can't restore the servers that run those bot accounts.

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[–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Reopen with the new rules: All posts must relate to the golden age of piracy!

[–] sider222@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

I like this ship we building here. Lets make it good for sailing again bois.

[–] balance_sheet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fuck them. I don't give a damn anymore. I'm staying here even if u/spez shoots a video crying like a little baby revoking API changes and begging people to come back

[–] MrSebSin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Same, I’m all for growing this community and not looking back. Anything centralized is just waiting for some douche like u/spez to ruin it.

[–] harcesz@szmer.info 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Its an industrial lockout so classically you either organize and strike even harder or burn down the capitalist pigs factory.

[–] amansrevenger@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah in the antiwork subreddit my comments are instantly shadowbanned, my old comments in other subs show up , reddit is in major emergency mode apparently.

Good

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