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[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Many Jews see a lack of empathy for the Israelis killed during the early morning massacre and for the relatives of the hostages - about 30 of whom are children - who are suspended in an agonising limbo.

This isn't true in my experience. Pretty much everyone thinks it was an absolutely disgusting act. I haven't really seen anyone defend or justify it.

Saying Israel has gone too far in retaliation against civilians is not defending hamas in any way.

Both of these acts are awful.

[–] sab@kbin.social 8 points 8 months ago

This is largely my experience as well, but when I told someone that I had this impression they looked at me like I was from a different planet.

I think those of us using the Fediverse as our primary social media platform might be a bit sheltered from just how bad it gets elsewhere. Sure, things can run hot here as well - it's Israel/Palestine after all - but I've never seen anything remotely as bad on the Fediverse as what is promoted by the fucking owner of X.

That's not too say the hateful shit doesn't exist here - it's just not actively promoted, which makes all the difference in the world.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


“Yesterday I bought a tear-gas spray canister at a military-equipment surplus store,” the 64-year-old retired tech sector worker said recently at a rally to mark a month since the Hamas killings.

The fallout from it - and from Israel’s intense military response that health officials in Hamas-controlled Gaza say has killed at least 13,300 Palestinians - has extended to Europe.

Many Jews see a lack of empathy for the Israelis killed during the early morning massacre and for the relatives of the hostages - about 30 of whom are children - who are suspended in an agonising limbo.

“What really upsets me," said Holocaust survivor Herbert Traube said at a Paris event commemorating the 85th anniversary of Kristallnacht, the 1938 government-backed pogroms against Jews in Germany and Austria, “is to see that there isn’t a massive popular reaction against this."

Criticism of Israel's policies and pure antisemitism have long been conflated by Israeli leaders such as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and by some watchdog groups.

Jewish school children have been facing bullying on their way to class and, in one instance, have been asked to explain Israel’s actions, according to Britain's Community Security Trust.


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