Company is evil and puts profits over human lives. In other news, water is wet
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Did you even read the article?
We’ve just got another extremely misleading technology hating title here.
In its statement, Cruise said, “It is inaccurate to say that our AVs were not detecting or exercising appropriate caution around pedestrian children” — a claim undermined by internal Cruise materials reviewed by The Intercept and the company’s statement itself. In its response to The Intercept’s request for comment, Cruise went on to concede that, this past summer during simulation testing, it discovered that its vehicles sometimes temporarily lost track of children on the side of the road. The statement said the problem was fixed and only encountered during testing, not on public streets
So they found out during internal testing that children were sometimes being identified as adults. That’s it. It wasn’t missing kids entirely, and it never endangered a single one. They recognized a problem during testing and fixed it, meanwhile in the three months of testing to bug fix it, about 25 kids under 14 were killed by human drivers.
But whatever, just more fear mongering and hyperbole from Lemmy!
I can question the intentions behind a billion dollar company without fear mongering. The article we both read brings up valid criticisms and the questionable way Cruise has handled them. If you only read what Cruise spokes persons write then I can understand why you're so confused about the very real issues being addressed. The only person being hyperbolic is you acting like a shill for this company.
This entire article is about them discovering issues during simulations and then fixing them before deploying to the streets.
So if your attempt is genuinely to question their intentions then it should be very obvious what those intentions are.
The only person being hyperbolic is you acting like a shill for this company
Stating facts from the article and being reasonable is hyperbole?
Even before GM, Cruise has been using their vehicles on public roads since 2020. How many kids has it killed since then?
The answer is precisely zero.
Over that same period human drivers killed about 528 pedestrian children.
Now “foul!” You may cry, as the data is for national averages versus isolated incidents, to which I would both agree and point out that Cruise has been operating in 13 major metropolitan cities now.
“Well that’s all fine and dandy, money_loo, but just you wait until the day they hit and kill a kid!”
Which just brings us back to the entire point of the article, how they are doing everything they can to insure that, y’know, their cars never hit any kids…
Woa, expecting people to read the article before discussing it? How optimistic of you.
Capitalism prioritises profits over lifes. Also pope allegedly does shit in the woods.
There's a good chance Cruise will land someone in jail. And frankly people should go to jail over this.
@NightOwl
To the people and bots with zero reading comprehension: it literately says "the company’s machines were struggling to match the safety performance of even an average human"
The cars are not better than an average driver.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
In Phoenix, Austin, Houston, Dallas, Miami, and San Francisco, hundreds of so-called autonomous vehicles, or AVs, operated by General Motors’ self-driving car division, Cruise, have for years ferried passengers to their destinations on busy city roads.
In an internal address on Slack to his employees about the suspension, Vogt stuck to his message: “Safety is at the core of everything we do here at Cruise.” Days later, the company said it would voluntarily pause fully driverless rides in Phoenix and Austin, meaning its fleet will be operating only with human supervision: a flesh-and-blood backup to the artificial intelligence.
“This strikes me as deeply irresponsible at the management level to be authorizing and pursuing deployment or driverless testing, and to be publicly representing that the systems are reasonably safe,” said Bryant Walker Smith, a University of South Carolina law professor and engineer who studies automated driving.
Though AV companies enjoy a reputation in Silicon Valley as bearers of a techno-optimist transit utopia — a world of intelligent cars that never drive drunk, tired, or distracted — the internal materials reviewed by The Intercept reveal an underlying tension between potentially life-and-death engineering problems and the effort to deliver the future as quickly as possible.
It appears this concern wasn’t hypothetical: Video footage captured from a Cruise vehicle reviewed by The Intercept shows one self-driving car, operating in an unnamed city, driving directly up to a construction pit with multiple workers inside.
According to one safety memo, Cruise began operating fewer driverless cars during daytime hours to avoid encountering children, a move it deemed effective at mitigating the overall risk without fixing the underlying technical problem.
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That'll teach them to pay attention while crossing the road.
The right and harming children, name a more iconic duo.