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Not the first time this has happened either, here's another similar case in Atlanta: https://abcnews.go.com/US/mother-boy-killed-hit-run-driver-probation-community/story?id=14158040

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[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Its too bad that Americans refuse to use their 2A rights to enforce normalcy and crush the crony capitalist conservatism that causes these problems

[–] wraithcoop@programming.dev 19 points 8 hours ago

meanwhile, in Japan, they ran a TV show of toddlers running errands

https://youtu.be/ExK0OAi_CVM

[–] stray@pawb.social 15 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

the traffic light was a third of a mile away.

I'm having trouble visualizing this. Does this mean that at a walking speed of 3km/h it would take ten entire minutes to get to a cross walk? Because that's insane.

In Sweden we have crosswalks very regularly, usually like a couple minutes of walking at most. For bus stops farther between intersections there are markers indicating that people will cross, even without a normal crossing marker. For areas which can't have a crossing (you may need to walk around a ways to get under or over four lanes) they put up barriers to prevent walking across.

When Americans complain about everything being car-centric, this is exactly the kind of shit they’re complaining about.

My grocery store is a mile away, but I can’t legally walk there. There are no crosswalks to get to the store. If I’m going to fully obey the law as written, I must use a car just to go to the store.

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No there were crosswalks, but the kids decided to "jaywalk" or cross outside a crossing, hence the reason the driver's not being charged. Drivers should be aware yes but it's not expected that children will dart out onto the road, frogger-style trying to cross outside crosswalks, much the reason I am afraid of my dumb dog doing it.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 5 points 2 hours ago

Jaywalking laws, like most laws, vary by State. In Illinois, for example, the pedestrian ALWAYS has the right of way. I think jaywalking can still be a local-level crime, but even if it is, the driver is always at fault for hitting a pedestrian.

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago
[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

When I was 10 my parents never let me out unsupervised and we didn’t even live near a busy road

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 29 points 10 hours ago

Which is honestly a travesty.

Kids need to be able to have freedom to play, explore, and be out and about.

Society making it dangerous and discouraging what is necessary for healthy development is not great for society.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 37 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

@HiddenLayer555 This is a messed up era. When I was a kid from kindergarten and up I walked to school alone. It wasn't a super long distance, about six blocks each way but it was unsupervised, and that was the norm back then. What has happened that it has become so dangerous that kids need to be bussed to school even if they're three blocks from the school?

[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Car-centric society has made it damn near impossible to walk.

Those six blocks you used to walk have all had their lanes widened into stroads, one converted into a thoroughfare, and no attention was given to pedestrian infrastructure so crosswalks, sidewalks or bike paths are almost non-existent unless you're within 2 blocks of the school.

We have literally built most of our cities, or redesigned older cities that used to be pedestrian friendly and walkable, into a wasteland of asphalt and concrete designed exclusively for personal vehicles.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com -3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

@Crankenstein Obviously you don't live in Shoreline where we spend millions on unused bike lanes where the roads narrow and potted.

[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If people aren't using the bike lanes it's usually because they're shit bike lanes.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

@ebolapie They are at least six feet wide made from concrete that is porous so water doesn't accumulate on top.

[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds expensive. How many roads have such bike lanes? Hypothetically, if you wanted to replace a trip to the grocery store, how useful would they be?

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

@ebolapie They aren't. It's hard carrying six bags of groceries on a bicycle and not going to waste time and energy going daily. Hypothetically it would get me within half a mile of a grocery store I don't like, the one I do like is seven miles away.

[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Given the right bicycle it's pretty easy, but that's beside the point. The question is why don't people use bike lanes that seem pretty nice on the surface of it, right? There has to be a reason other than "bikes suck and nobody wants to ride them," because in some places people go everywhere on bicycles and they love it.

So what, really, is the main difference between those places and your town, if it's not the quality of the bike lanes?

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 0 points 2 hours ago

@ebolapie I suspect the weather has a lot to do with it. Kind of sucks biking in a down pour.

[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Cool story bud

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

Have you been to an American school recently? The elementary next to my house could be confused for a prison at first glance. It hasn't gotten bad, if anything it's actually safer than when we went to school. They have promoted a society of individuals ruled by fear.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

if anything it's actually safer than when we went to school

Gun violence is the #1 cause of child mortality in the US.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

In the home, mostly, yep. Outside the home is statistically safer now than almost any other time. Overall crime is down to historic lows.

Ironically, at this point, and for the last 30 years in the US, owning a gun makes you more susceptible to gun violence. That may be changing, but I seriously doubt it since the cops are now public enemy #1, and have been since the mid '90s.

Oh and before you try to defend the thugs with badges, they were declaring war on the public all throughout the '80s and '90s, by using yellow journalism and Hollywood to manufacture a "war on cops," because people were rightfully questioning qualified immunity. It didn't exist until Harlow V Fitzgerald in 1982. It shouldn't exist at all according to the law as written and recorded in The Congressional Record.

US cops have always been nothing more than glorified slave hunters. It seems that nothing changes in that criminal organization. The DOJ is still reporting that cops commit far more crime than all of the arraigned, but not convicted, potential criminals in the US.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Our most recent school levy addressed basically nothing but turning the schools into jails by wanting to hire a bunch of cops, install metal detectors and a bunch of other “security measures” and this is a rural small district, we have zero need for that stuff, why not propose paying teachers better, buying updated textbooks or funding after school care, something but I’m not and never will vote to turn our schools into prisons

[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

There is a pervasive ideal in this country that has been a core part of it since the Pilgrims landed: Puritanical Ethics of "punishment is Divine, to suffer is to be Holy"

Something is wrong? Punish the wrongness until it becomes righteous. If it doesn't work then punish harder.

It's how this country has always solved its problems. Label the other as wicked then beat them into submission.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com -2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

@AngryCommieKender In my time you didn't hear of school shootings. They just didn't happen. So there was less need for the draconian security. My high school was open campus, and my Jr high we were at least allowed to leave during lunch. Different world today entirely. And I don't like it because it conditions people for 15 minute cities and other forms of tyranny.

[–] ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

... it conditions people for 15 minute cities and other forms of tyranny

Are you saying you think the idea of having all important services within 15 minutes is tyranny?

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com -3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

@ShrimpCurler I'm saying being restricted in your ability to travel is tyranny, and I KNOW you know this was my intent.

[–] ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I was confused because it's such a bad take... That's not what 15 minute cities are about. That's just the dumb conspiracy theories.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 0 points 2 hours ago

@ShrimpCurler Ok you're obvious part of the Klaus Schwab fan club, no thanks!

[–] aeischeid@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

your intent is NOT clear.

restricted in your ability to travel is totally normal and not tyranny. Drivers licences are smart, Pilot license make sense, dang are speed limits tyranny?

15 minutes cities is just a concept that all or most of the typically important services citizens need to survive and thrive should be within a 15 minutes of where they live without REQUIRING a car. Modern car dependent culture is the tyranny if anything, and 15 minute cities idea is a response to that

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

@aeischeid For anyone capable of basic logic it would have been. Obviously having services readily available is not tyrannical, being unable to travel is, what other significant aspects of 15 minute cities are there? Do you really want your life controlled to this degree?

[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I have literally never seen the idea of a 15 minute city being restrictive anywhere other than the ravings of Alex Jones tier wingnuts. Everybody who actually pushes the concept just thinks you should have a grocery store, a doctor's office, a library etc. near your house.

Edit: and don't get it twisted, nobody is saying you should be forced to relocate either, it's a guideline for urban planning.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Same. I vaguely remember some shooting happening my Jr. Year of HS. I wanna say Bowling Green or Paducah, KY. This was before Columbine. Columbine was my Freshman year at Transylvania University.

[–] lily33@lemm.ee 103 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (19 children)

after allowing him and his brother, 10, to walk home unaccompanied by an adult from a nearby grocery store.

Wtf, are kids 10 and 7 not old enough to walk by themselves to the grocery store now?

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Meanwhile all the boomers talk about how they have such find memories of walking around unsupervised until the streetlights came on or whatever lame Facebook nostalgia meme they're parroting

[–] LemmyIsReddit2Point0@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Sorry I'm not following. Are you saying the boomers experienced it and pulled up the ladder like dickheads? Or that anyone who had freedom as a child is a boomer with irresponsible parents? I'm confused.

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