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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 14 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

They added spyware to it.

Here is excerpt from the tos, shared by user in steam reviews of the game.

important Info in Terms of Service:

• Mods are a bannable offense • Display of Cheats/Exploits is bannable • Forced arbitration clause and a waiver of class action and jury trial rights for all users residing in the United States and any other territory other than Australia, Switzerland, The United Kingdom, or The Territories of The European Economic Area • You can be banned for using a VPN while connecting to online servers • Cannot access game content on a Virtual PC

Collected Data Types: • Identifiers / Contact Information: Name, user name, gamertag, postal and email address, phone number, unique IDs, mobile device ID, platform ID, gaming service ID, advertising ID (IDFA, Android ID) and IP address • Protected Characteristics: Age and gender • Commercial Information: Purchase and usage history and preferences, including gameplay information • Billing Information: Payment information (credit / debit card information) and shipping address • Internet / Electronic Activity: Web / app browsing and gameplay information related to the Services; information about your online interaction(s) with the Services or our advertising; and details about the games and platforms you use and other information related to installed applications • Device and Usage Data: Device type, software and hardware details, language settings, browser type and version, operating system, and information about how users use and interact with the Services (e.g., content viewed, pages visited, clicks, scrolls) • Profile Inferences: Inferences made from your information and web activity to help create a personalized profile so we can identify goods and services that may be of interest • Audio / Visual Information: Account photos, images, and avatars, audio information via chat features and functionality, and gameplay recordings and video footage (such as when you participate in playtesting) • Sensitive Information: Precise location information (if you allow the Services to collect your location), account credentials (user name and password), and contents of communications via chat features and functionality.

I wouldnt touch anything this company has produced.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

They added spyware to it.

No, they didn't.

Just because something sounds outrageous, doesn't mean it is true.

Borderlands 2 hasn't been updated since 2022:

Borderlands - Last updated: 3 August 2016 Borderlands 2 - Last updated: 4 August 2022 Borderlands 3 - Last updated: 8 August 2024

No Borderlands titles include anti-cheat: https://areweanticheatyet.com/?search=borderlands

Here is another person, 7 years ago trying the exact same outrage-based engagement farming strategy of linking a TOS update and implying a nefarious intent: https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/8naopt/take_two_a_spyware_apocalypse/ It's exactly the same "Take two is spying on you!!!" content and yet, none of the Borderlands games have added spyware and none have added kernel anti-cheat.

Also, if you read the 2018 and 2025 TOS you will notice notice that the information that they collect in the 2025 TOS ( https://www.take2games.com/legal/en-US/ ) is exactly the same as it was in 2018.

TL;DR - Just because you read it on the Internet, doesn't mean it is true.

[–] Guidy@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

LOL. I loved the Borderlands franchise, until Epic made their evil dog shit app store and the Borderlands devs sold out to them. Motherfuck Borderlands forever now. Thanks for the warning so I don't accidentally reinstall any of it from Steam.

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[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I sometimes wonder what will happen when EAC, that has root access to millions of PCs, gets compromised or has grunty employee and pushes malicious update

[–] seralth@lemmy.world 33 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Same thing that happened to genshin when it's anti cheats got compromised I would guess. Not a lot and everyone ends up not caring.

Because normal people do not give a single fuck about the technical aspect of data privacy.

[–] UltraMasculine@sopuli.xyz 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That's right. I'm not lying at all when I say that none of my friends care about privacy. It's actually quite frustrating.

[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yup, same here. As long as it's convenient, my friends/family don't care what is taken from them.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Then the death squads will come in, and they'll ask 'how could this possibly happen!?', getting fucking pissed or saying "we couldn't have known!" when you answer, and offer an 'i fucking told you so' in line for the camps.

You're there too, because they tagged you in everything.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It probably spys on you already.

The company that makes the Overwolf game launcher is an Israli cyber security company that gets money from the US.

Tencent spys on people for China through a lot of the games they own.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 9 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Holy fuck I did not know about Overwolf. That's the last time I download something from my, apparently, dipshit friend (no, this is not the only stupid thing he's done).

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I think it's kind of ironic you call your friend apparently a dipshit for not knowing something you also didn't know... pot calling the kettle black & all.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 34 minutes ago

from my, apparently, dipshit friend (no, this is not the only stupid thing he's done).

Reading comprehension is hard. I get it.

[–] vavakado@infosec.pub 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Hey, maybe your friend didn't know either!(nor did i😭)

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[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Crowdstrike 2.0

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 65 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I just don't understand anticheat or copy protection on PvE games. I can understand it if you don't want to play against a cheater, but this is a cooperative shooter.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 day ago (3 children)

See you're looking at it from the point of view that it would serve the player experience, but that's not what it's for, it's to mine your data

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[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

It's for precedent on future games and to sneak in shit for later. Wittle down your expectations and privacy, make it "normal".

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[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Ok so that explains the bad reviews, but why is steam giving the game away for free? Also BL3 is heavily discounted

Publisher made it free to propagate their spyware.

[–] bimbimboy@lemm.ee 21 points 22 hours ago

I think it's up to the publisher, and not steam, to give the game away for free.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 64 points 1 day ago (14 children)

🏴‍☠️ is free and without shenanigans.

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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Yikes. Is the review in the screenshot true? They got root anticheat? Or rootkit data harvesting?

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

He said they added a kernel level anticheat in the TOS which is true. But they seem to have not included it in the game yet. But they tell that by possedong the game you allow them to. Edit : typo but can't correct "possedong" now

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

possedong

I'd like to know how your autocorrect learned this word

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

That's a typo from an i to an o, commenter probably meant possessing but made a mistake and tried to type posseding, I suspect their native language is french given their username and "to possess" in french is "posséder".

That being said, a possedong sounds intriguing

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