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So, i want to give a try to usenet world.

I have the *Arr setup with torrents now, and works great, but why not experiment a bit further?

So many questions...

First of all: will i find italian contents? Or its all US/English stuff?

I got an account on NZBFind, bit thats only an indexer right? I need also to find an access provider to usenet? If so, which access provider do you recomend? I want somewhere i can test for a few weeks or a month or so before committing, so no credit card upfront.

Update: trough techradar got an offer on newshosting for 5.99/mo with 3 monts free. Paid with PayPal then cancelled the recurrent immediately (so paid 0 so far). But at the moment not yet sure i made it working in my *Arr setup properly.

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[–] BrownianMotion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)
  1. Usenet provider. I suggest if you make the jump, then Newshosting is a great option. Why: 5557 days of retention, up to 100 connections, and unlimited download (on highest plan $15/month).

Also Newshosting offers a FREE TRIAL. From there T&C - "Free Trial ends in 14 days or 30GB used, whichever comes first." You might have to do a CC upfront, but just cancel it the next day, and run the free 2 weeks.

  1. Will you find Italian content. YES, there is tons of it. How do I know? Because I host a Usenet indexer/scraper, and I see everything that is scraped on my server. English, German and Italian are among the top 5 languages.

  2. NZBFind. That is a scraper/indexer. You still need a Usenet provider. The indexers just provide you with the NZB, you need the usenet provider (configured in NZBGet or whatever your download *arrr is) to get all the "parts" (binary posts) and assemble them together.

[–] 7u5k3n@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Just signed up for newshosting Paid like $89 for a year.

Edit: because of this comment.

Thanks!

[–] BrownianMotion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

Welcome! Thanks for also pointing out that yearly is cheaper that monthly subscription.

[–] thisusernameistaken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

there are plenty of newshosting resellers that use the same exact servers that are much cheaper than $15 a month or even $10 a month. use one of the backbone maps to see all of the various ones.

[–] thisusernameistaken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i dont think any service is going to give you free weeks or a month with no strings attached. if they did everybody would use them and not pay. you can just buy 1 unlimited month of frugal usenet for 5 bucks (not a subscription) and call it good.

[–] BrownianMotion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

There are plenty that will give you a free something. It might be a week/1GB whichever is first (A good way to look around). There are a lot that give you a free day with no limit (other than number of connections).

[–] kaleid@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Keep an eye on black friday deals, they are usually the best around. You may get lifetime deals on the cheap from indexers, cheap blocks/subs from server providers. It's a steep, but rewarding learning curve. Can't help you with Italian content though.

[–] maxprime@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

I don’t think you’ll find many providers that offer free trials, although I stand to be corrected. But some will accept crypto so if you don’t want to give your credit card details you could try that.

[–] nomadic@lemmy.one 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I use Astraweb because I can buy 1000GB at a time that doesn't expire so I avoid the monthly fees. Works well for me as I don't do a high volume and it removes any feeling of pressure to use it more than I need.

[–] BrownianMotion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Astraweb is the absolute worst to be recommending. DMCA's are instant. Connections are 50 (this isn't bad, but there are many others that offer 60 or more).

[–] thisusernameistaken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Astraweb is the same exact servers as Newshosting that you glowingly recommended up thread. cant be that bad i guess. ;)

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[–] teichflamme@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Dumb question: how can you get DMCA'd?

I thought it's all encrypted and servers are no log?

[–] BrownianMotion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So your connection can be (using port 587 for example) is encrypted. That is not the problem.

The problem is unencrypted or open filenames. Its the content that is DMCA'd on usenet, not the end user.

If you post up to usenet a file (being really simplistic since most people dont post) called "Deadpool3-h264.mkv" it will be taken down pretty quick on some services.

The problem is only with the users like you, who wanted to get it. The solution to this is threefold, get yourself onto a private scraper (one that only does occasional free signups) or be really fast on content grabbing, thirdly a site that has good de-obfuscating scraping ability. (there are a few out there that are open. pm if you are interested).

[–] teichflamme@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Ah, okay, thank you.

So the problem isn't for the downloading party but for content availability on the server.

[–] nomadic@lemmy.one 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well for someone like myself that is low volume Astraweb is great because they offer the option of buying GBs instead of monthly fees.

[–] BrownianMotion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

That's fair. I did use them for a while, but in my case (which was very heavy duty), I saw takedowns way faster than others. Not saying they are bad, but they are "super compliant" to complaints.

[–] p5f20w18k@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I use eweka.nl & nzbplanet, works fine

[–] Shimitar@feddit.it 1 points 2 weeks ago

Italian content? Some, but not much. Way less that torrents.

I speak from experience.

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