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[–] KbSez@piefed.social 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I love Tawny.... but this is what they are doing instead of a 3rd season of PRODIGY? Or another season of LOWER DECKS???????

WTF?

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

There's absolutely no reason to think any show is being made "instead of" another.

Edit: And as Newsome herself stated, this series has not been greenlit. It may not get made at all.

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Mariner is one of my favorite Trek characters period. I'm happy they're letting Black women be in charge of their own stories.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 10 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

At SDCC CBS sent us a synopsis, essentially a workplace comedy on a vacation planet – not Risa, not in the Federation. So are those fundamentals are still the same?

Those fundamentals are the same. But what I can tell you is what we’re really working on exploring, are the sort of overlooked sections of what happens when a world and a culture that is not that was not [sic] in the Federation. What happens when they decide to be?… So Federation outsiders and what’s kind of the nitty gritty involved with joining the Federation and involved with… yeah, I’m really struggling [to avoid spoilers]

That's an interesting adjustment...

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t think you needed [sic], just the comma that StarTrek.com omitted.

So, this is a big reveal - the scenario is a planet that has not been but now is a part of the Federation.

The viewpoint is civilian.

The resort workplace setting, like the old Loveboat or Fantasy Island, means that anyone can come by as the guest star.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 3 points 19 hours ago

I don’t think you needed [sic]

Just wanted to make sure - I stumbled over that sentence when reading it!

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Hopefully things go better than with Bajor.

[–] semisimian@startrek.website 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's a comedy, so I hope so too! I imagine the planet, being a vacation/pleasure planet, will have a lot of kinks that are taboo to the Federation and that's where you will find the narrative tension as they apply for membership. The planet will have a constitution at odds with the Fed, full of kinks. They might welcome species that have kinks not outlined in said constitution. They might welcome federation citizens that are exploring their non-Fed kinks on this planet.

We've seen plenty of criticism of the Federation's nanny-state. Lately, that criticism has come from the writers of the shows who seem to have lost the narrative that the Federation is our ideal. Sure, it has issues, but none of us should be ashamed of reaching for utopia. I hope the new show is a continuation of the SNW and Prodigy reboot of a less cynical Trek.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Any show that tries to paint the federation as less than aspirational has entirely missed the point of trek, and the product is a stillbirth.

Pointing out flaws, or highlighting the morally grey areas like ds9 did is fine, because it still preserves the federation as a multicultural utopia.

E: always nice to get downvotes without further discourse. How does anyone consider "the office but in the alpha quadrant" star trek? I don't want to watch random people doing a mediocre job in some bureaucratic apparatus while they wear trek uniforms. I don't want to watch s31 as some sort of idiot CIA. I want to watch modern TNG.

A sense of wonder and optimism, the exploration of fantastic things never seen before. Engagement with philosophy and real world issues through a sci fi lense. A hopeful tomorrow, a ideological roadmap to utopia.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world -5 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

We don’t really need a “Star Trek Workplace Comedy” do we?

[–] match@pawb.social 2 points 7 hours ago

Is that not what DS9 was?

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 18 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's pretty hard to make the case that we "need" any work of fiction.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 6 points 16 hours ago

I swear, I'm always baffled by the whole "did we NEED" this piece of media.

I don't even know what they mean. Was the world in 1982 going "Oh, thank God, I had been looking for an ET everywhere".

You don't know if you wanted to watch a thing until you watch it.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 7 points 16 hours ago

Well, they did five years of Lower Decks. I would watch more Lower Decks. I'd say there's a need for that.

So do I need more Twny Newsome Star Trek workplace comedy? I need it in my cardiovascular system this very minute, yes.

[–] semisimian@startrek.website 5 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Do you know where you are commenting? And surely you mean "another Star Trek work place comedy," because we already have DS9.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 17 hours ago

I'd argue that large parts of Lower Decks is as well honestly. Especially episodes where the main characters are busy with ship duties while the senior officers are off doing typical Star Trek plot stuff.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Don’t care. Like star trek, but this sounds like an awful idea and a flop that will just dilute the brand even further. The live version of her character and Quaid’s was great. I wish they would land back on SNW or something.

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago

You say "dilute," I say "diversify". Star Trek has always had a place for comedy. That doesn't mean anything goes, and I get being trepidatious after the trash fire that was S31, but I think there's good reason for optimism in this case. If Lower Decks and interviews like this are anything to go by, it looks like Newsome knows that any comedy needs to jibe with the overall Trek ethos.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 3 points 16 hours ago

For the record, I hated maybe the first five episodes of Lower Decks, while they were mostly just trying to do Rick and Morty in Trek. I do think they found their stride and now the concept of a stand-alone Trek comedy makes a lot more sense, especially from some of the same team.

Whcih I would much prefer over another season of SNW trying to make every episode the wacky, weird viral one instead of having a baseline of episodic sci-fi antology.

I get it, it's harder to get that balance right with so few episodes, but SNW is WAY closer to jumping the shark than Lower Decks ever was. If you're going to do a Trek comedy, do a separate show.