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[โ€“] lugal@sopuli.xyz 40 points 6 days ago

To be fair: caffeine is toxic to insects. It's not that we enjoy the intended effect like in hot chilies. It's that the effect differs between insects and mammals

[โ€“] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nah it was Ethiopians who realized it. Arabs agreed. Then Europeans lost their damn minds at the concept of a non alcoholic social beverage, much less one with an energizing effect

[โ€“] Naz@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago

Going from drunk to energized to inventing calculus, optics, a working theory of gravity and orbital mechanics in one lifetime

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (29 children)

Man I hate coffee. Tastes like ash in water.

I have high sensitivity towards some tastes. Beer is also not palatable for me.

[โ€“] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not sure why you're being down voted.

Personally I love the taste of coffee, but I can see how high "tastitivity" could make it unpleasant.

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Not sure why you're being down voted.

People take it personally maybe ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ’”

But yeah, coffee definitely feels like a love it or hate it kind of beverage.

[โ€“] GladiusB@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It sounds like you have had a bunch of dark roasts. Maybe try a light roast and see if it tastes the same?

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (5 children)

It doesn't taste the same, nor smell the same, but it all tastes bad. For me, it's like asking me to try different brands of cigarettes. I'll still cough no matter the subtle or big differences.

[โ€“] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I hear what your saying. But I enjoy coffee. But if you have tried different types it might not be for you.

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

It definitely isn't for me โ€“ I know that from my experiences with it. I'm 38 years old, I'm fairly certain after this long. ๐Ÿ˜„

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[โ€“] oppy1984@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Same here. When people ask me why I don't drink coffee I have to explain to them that to me it tastes like a bars ashtray smells at the end of a busy night. The funny thing is everyone in my family loves coffee, I'm just the black sheep that drinks tea.

"Oh you just haven't had good coffee" nope sorry bud, I've had high end coffee, low end coffee, flavored coffee, everything. I even had a supervisor who basically lived on coffee and did everything he could to find a blend that was palatable to me, still nothing.

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. Many who like coffee just can't imagine how someone can just not even learn to love it, no matter how hard they try.

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[โ€“] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

A lot of people think coffee has one taste. It does not. It isn't all that burnt to hell flavor like you get from Starbucks or most other places. A nice light roast will be more fruity. If you get the chance, I'd recommend trying a naturally processed coffee, which is where the seed is left in the fruit while it ferments and is then removed, so it gets a lot more of the fruit flavors.

I'd also say the same thing for beer, but even more so. Beer is like soup. There's so many different ways to make it with different ingredients. Budweiser, or similar, is what most people try, and it's shit. There's a massive world of beer though, with things like sours that can taste like wine, fruit juice, or candy, to stouts that can have coffee or chocolate notes, and so much more.

You have to have an open mind and explore. There may not be coffee you like (the number of flavors is broad, but still more limited), but I can promise you I could find beer you like. My mom used to say she hates beer, but I've found a good number that she enjoys because there isn't just one flavor.

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Thanks, people have been offering me fine beer and coffee my whole life since puberty hit. Everything tastes like shit to me, I'm sorry. Some people just don't like coffee or beer. ๐Ÿ‘ And I'm perfectly happy not to need to drink them both. There's plenty of other things to enjoy. Like tea. Fruit juices. A gin and tonic perhaps. A mild non-alcoholic ginger beer.

But coffee can go sit in a corner.

[โ€“] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, that's totally fine if you've actually been open to it and given it a shot! That's great. I just hate when people drink shitty beer (or anything else) and decide they don't like it. You aren't supposed to like those. They're just cheap.

(You can also not want to consume something and not have an opinion on if you like it or not, for those who just want to avoid them for whatever reason you have. That's perfectly good too.)

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You seem like a reasonable person. Thanks for backing me (and others) up like that. ๐Ÿค

[โ€“] Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You can't just say all that and not name any brands. Sure do I start?

[โ€“] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

You start local. I can't help you with that unless you live near me.

[โ€“] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Coffee is the same for me. Beer used to be the same, but I got used to it - still doesn't taste great, but cold it's acceptable. But not coffee, I never got used to it.

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

That's the thing, I have no interest in subjecting myself to things until they are acceptable lol. I like eating and drinking things that are inherently good to begin with. Things that are good for me, and to me. ๐Ÿ˜…

[โ€“] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Very understandable! I've also stopped drinking beer, because it never started tasting good.

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[โ€“] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't care for the taste, but the smell is truly fantastic.

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[โ€“] cod@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Funny, after water, beer and coffee are my two most consumed drinks. I like whisky too but havenโ€™t been drinking as much lately. It kind of comes and goes.

Unfortunately, water is third on that list for me.

[โ€“] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Like ash? That's wild. My partner also doesn't like the taste, though she does like the smell. I wonder if there's some genetic stuff at play, since I don't know how else it could taste anything like ash.

huh, i also think it tastes like ash...

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I do think there might be. I think it's called hyper tasters or something.

[โ€“] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

"Burnt water" is how I described the taste to my coffee-loving grandparents after numerous (and enthusiastic! I wanted to like it) attempts to find coffee I liked.

[โ€“] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

No no, coffea.

Ita coffee and tea together.

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

๐Ÿคฎ

What a way to ruin some tea.

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[โ€“] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago

you're welcome. ๐Ÿ˜Š

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