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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Please label links to french articles with the "french" language next time.

EDIT: Those who downvoted, any explanation as to why?

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Should we label links to English articles with the "English" language?

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Preferably, this allow users to only see posts in languages they want to see (which is why it's often recommended to keep "Undetermined" enabled for the language, as it's not "mandatory" to label posts at the moment.)

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

That makes sense!

I think you got downvoted because your original comment made it sound like you were singling out this post for linking to a French article, but I agree we should tag all posts with the appropriate language, English or French.

As a bilingual instance, I think mandatory labeling of post language should be considered.

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Step one of spycraft. Dont write articles about not having enough spycraft

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Maybe its false info, and secretly we have lots. Spylevel 100

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Best spy in the world

Everyone knows who he is

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

But you have heard of him

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Either that, or we're the only ones who are GOOD at it.

Signal and Republicans leaking operatives' names says what?

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Our spooks are so good even our own government doesn't know they exist!

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

Sounds like a Murdoch Mysteries plot. Terence Myers establishes a top secret spy org financed through the Maple Syrup Reserve...

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think your title meant to say, "Canada is the only G7 countries without a foreign intelligence agency."

[–] BlackAura@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Also: Country?

Or "Canada is the only one of the G7 countries... "

[–] VeryInterestingTable@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

It has a "foreign" intelligence agency, as in it's intelligence agency is foreign. Makes sense to me

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Does CSIS not exist anymore?

[–] deeferg@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The way I understand CSIS is it's more focused on tracking online actions, akin to chats plotting terrorism. I dont think they focus on actual bodies in other countries or tracking other country activities.

[–] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think something everyone forgets is, if we had human based foreign intelligence services, if they were good at their jobs, we would never know.

We also have multiple agencies, not just CSIS that conducts intelligence operations. CSE and CFINTCOM come to mind, as well as others. In fact, CFINTCOM specifically calls this out on their Canada.ca page; "strategic, operational and tactical human intelligence resources"

Edit: Just found this job posting

https://www.cmfmag.ca/policy/call-for-applications-for-joint-task-force-x-source-handler-operators/

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/services/benefits-military/education-training/establishments/canadian-forces-school-military-intelligence.html

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, from what I've gathered from previous articles on the topic, CSIS does not have boots-on-the-ground spies, foreign assets, or the infrastructure to support them.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Huh Til... sounds like many other agencies that are there in spirit... but semi gutted and underfunded in reality.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They've been around since 1984 and they used to do much more than just online stuff.

The Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS, SCRS) is a foreign intelligence service and security agency of the federal government of Canada. It is responsible for gathering, processing, and analyzing national security information from around the world and conducting covert action within Canada and abroad. The CSIS has no law enforcement function and mainly focuses on intelligence gathering overseas.

I've had family work there, but obviously they never talked about it much so maybe I just misunderstood what they were doing exactly.

[–] 0ndead@infosec.pub 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Hello, it’s me, your Canadian spy. Please let me back in.

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hear it’s pretty easy these days, you just gotta ask to join the group chat and then you’ll be in the loop and stuff. Just gotta remember to ask about new secret activities because they like to have a new group chat sometimes eg “hey are you guys planning any covert black ops atm be sweet if you could add me to the chat” and they’ll be like “sure are you still on the same number” and there you go

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Haha, I had a similar situation. Our chat app had a message from our IT about installing an app that tracks location and state of computer, but without the normal corporate memo first. Just a "hey please install from this link".

So I said " How do I know this is not a phishing scam".

The reply was "it's real, its's me ITguyname".

Me: "How do I know its the real ITGuyname and not an imposter."

Itguyname: "Because I'm standing up"

So I knew it was our IT guy by that joke, but there could still be a chance it wasn't. How is it a random dude is more suspicious of supposed chat connections that the US government.

[–] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That’s a non sequitur. “We can’t trust the US” doesn’t mean “we need nukes” and it doesn’t mean “we need spooks” either.

[–] scintilla@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

You can maybe argue about nukes but a country absolutely needs some level of intelligence network if it wants to keep itself safe.

[–] TotallyHuman@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You might disagree with the argument, but it's not completely random. From the US, we gained most of the benefits of having nukes and spooks, without having to maintain them ourselves. Since we can't trust them, we now have to decide if it's worth developing our own.

[–] VanillaFrosty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Ukraine has shown that any country that wishes to stay sovereign needs nukes. Trump's rhetoric around the "51st" State further proves the need.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Oh wow really? I thought you guys had one the entire time.

I feel like there's a meme to be made on this...