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Full title: Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version "to access a decade-old, discontinued video game"

Ubisoft's lawyers have responded to a class action lawsuit over the shutdown of The Crew, arguing that it was always clear that you didn't own the game and calling for a dismissal of the case outright.

The class action was filed in November 2024, and Ubisoft's response came in February 2025, though it's only come to the public's attention now courtesy of Polygon. The full response from Ubisoft attorney Steven A. Marenberg picks apart the claims of plaintiffs Matthew Cassell and Alan Liu piece by piece, but the most common refrain is that The Crew's box made clear both that the game required an internet connection and that Ubisoft retained the right to revoke access "to one or more specific online features" with a 30-day notice at its own discretion.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 19 points 6 days ago

If buying isn't owning, surely that means pirating isn't stealing.

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

This is why I just pirate games from big developers. They’re fuckers so fuck them anyway.

[–] robdor@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 6 days ago

Ubisoft can't be mad at me for not burying any of their games because they don't make any games.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Fuck Ubisoft.

If you want a good open world racing game, well Motor Town: Behind The Wheel isn't strictly a racing game.. nor technically even focused on being a racing game, it is an open world driving job simulator and there are lots of sports cars and you can do lots of jobs where you are racing against a clock.

There is also multiplayer and a custom race system (as well as actual race tracks interspersed in the world).

The reason I really recommend it though is the driving feels better then just about any other game I have ever played, especially tire grip modelling. I don't know how to describe it other than it makes me uninterested in driving cars in most other games lol.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1369670/Motor_Town_Behind_The_Wheel/

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[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Good reminder to never buy an Ubisoft game.

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[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Take them to small claims for theft. I'll bet they don't show up. Then they won't pay you, so you get a court order and sheriff to recoup your money in assets. Take anything you want and put it on eBay. Collect your money.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 6 days ago

That's one of the many reasons why I never bought it.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Gaslighting. That's a new strategy and a new low.

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[–] Rob299@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

All I want Ubisoft to do is make more Rayman games. Yet they doing things like this.

[–] enkonju@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I actually enjoyed the first two Crew games and probably would have checked out Motorfest by now if they didn't remove the first game from my library. But now, why should I ever buy another Ubisoft game when I don't know how long they'll bless me with the ability to play the games I've paid for? They even included expiration dates for their game keys and they're acting like those dates were completely meaningless. So, even if they try to add an end of life date for future purchases, how would I know they're not lying like they did with these original keys?

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

To think this is the same company that has to use mythic quest show to promote its propaganda as good PR, guessing it's partiall Rob's machelennys fault for being so thirsty to stay in Hollywood spotlight he had to approach something like ubisoft.

[–] Slaxis@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Having watched all of Mythic Quest, I had no idea what you meant and looked it up - I didn’t realize there was any connection. How does the show promote Ubisoft?

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 11 points 6 days ago

Ubisoft doesn’t have to support the game forever.

They can either open up hosting to players or give refunds but they can’t have their cake and eat it too.

[–] base@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The best part is they havent made a compelling game in 10 years. So i wont buy a game of them ever again either way. Its an easy life tbh.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 10 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I've been increasingly frustrated with clickbaity coverage and headlines. Credit to Polygon for being just as obviously opinionated as Gamesradar but titling and writing their piece way more professionally.

I mean, yeah, Ubisoft's lawyers are arguing that the arguments of a lawsuit against them are wrong, that's hardly surprising. Given that they're being sued for taking down an online game they would certainly argue that they had no obligation to keep the game online indefinitely.

It's an interesting case and there are... creative arguments on both sides, but being mad that Ubisoft would argue that the text of their EULA applies seems so weird.

For the record, and because I'll be hounded for this, I've signed all relevant petitions to request regulation about digital ownership that creates an obligation to provide offline versions or access to server code. I'm all for making it illegal to build planned obsolescence into software. That doesn't mean I'm not bothered with bad journalism that I happen to agree with.

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