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[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I own guns now. I never did or even considered it until the election results in November.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A superpower by definition cannot really be a rogue state. A "rogue state" is a political label applied by dominant powers to states that defy the international order. For example Iran or North Korea are considered rogue states because they defy the international order. What is "the international order"?

Well, it's the combination post-WW2 institutions created by none other than the US. The UN, IMF, NATO, etc. They set the norms of "legitimate" behavior. When the US participates in military interventions, economic sanctions, and other aggressive actions it's framed as upholding "rules-based order" whereas identical actions by weaker states get them condemned with the label as "rogue states".

To call the US a rogue state is to misunderstand power. Hegemony is the ability to define reality, not just defy it. In this way, the US has always been a rogue state in the sense that it does whatever it wants regardless of the international norms. I mean, just look at the mid 1900s and its actions in Latin America. It was involved in about a dozen states toppling governments and supporting military dictatorships- including sponsoring the genocide of natives in Guatemala.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yes, that's true. I'm more concerned with whether US citizens, whose past administrations more or less invented the term, can now recognize for themselves that they are no longer on the side of the "good guys" with this administration at all, but are now the "terrorists" themselves - the very thing that past US administrations denounced (at the time, of course, already completely speciously).

Edit: Trump himself has even brought the term back to a certain extent - and he is not only the personification of evil for the governments of other countries. I just want to make it clear that it's the same here as with almost everything he does: it's projection - whatever he accuses others of, he and his corrupt gang are the ones doing it.

Edit 2: Please don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this because I believe that Europe, for example, would be much better - I'm saying it because I'm from Germany and we have the history that you all know. It's not too late to put a stop to Trump and his Nazi colleagues, but it will take civil resistance. If there is no vehement resistance, I fear that history will repeat itself. Nobody in their right mind can want that.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

My point is that there are no "good guys" and "bad guys". There are only differing levels of power. The US has been doing a lot worse for a lot longer. It's just that past administrations were diplomatic about their use of power. This administration, being a reality TV star, is just choosing to be loud about it.

America under Biden supplied 80% of the bombs that Israel dropped on Gazan civilians. Obama led the illegal attack on Libya and killed Gaddafi and doomed Libya to anarchy and chaos. Bush destroyed Iraq and doomed them to anarchy and chaos- creating ISIS. I could go on and on.

Most American citizens (just like the citizens of virtually every country in the world) are not really concerned with geopolitics. They have to pay their rent, they're gonna be late for work, their kid is failing a class, their girlfriend is pissed because they don't go out enough, they're tired from work, they're working hard for that promotion, they're worried about rent increases, etc.

So to answer your question. No, Americans don't really care. And even if they care, they're forced to worry about more pressing individual matters. Basically the same thing that happened in your home country in the 1930s.

[–] allonzy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Myself and and a good number of people I know are very aware and horrified. Unfortunately this isn't necessarily the case outside of my social bubble. Since major media outlets aren't doing a great job, a lot of people are trying to spread the real news in a grassroots style.

[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Leftists, of course. Liberals will continue to be in denial for the foreseeable future. Conservatives just dgaf.

[–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not all liberals. But yeah most. Or maybe I'm more leftist than I thought I was....

[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Liberals will claim that they are furious at what's going on and then proceed to vote for another capitalist who perpetuates what's going on, all while refusing to listen to Socialists. πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

[–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago

Sad but True.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Americans for the most part are only dimly aware there's an outside world in the first place. The amount of covering up that needs to be done is minimal.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It figures it takes someone calling themselves "CanadaPlus" to actually see the actual question and answer it.

Everyone else is answering about how aware Americans are about what's happening, but the question was about whether Americans were aware of how the world perceived the US. The answer, of course, is "no, Americans have no idea because Americans consume almost no non-American media".

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago

This kind of question coming up a lot is why I chose the name, haha.

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[–] satans_methpipe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We're inundated with propaganda. Our media is state run. All for-profit media is state run.

[–] kraftpudding@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Our media is state run. All for-profit media is state run

Could you elaborate on that take?

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

We been a rogue state for 100 years

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

It's covered up yeah, most of the republicans are too dumb to realize it.

Many Americans are unaware of the problems due to media censorship.

However they're creating so many problems that even those with blinders on are seeing this shit.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I see the American media as softballing fascism, or they're just outright complicit.

No one will call shit what it is, and every fucking thing in the news needs to be both-sides-ed.

This doesn't help with the less educated grasping these basic concepts, nor does the massive stigmatization of intelligence and critical thinking, nor does the attacks on institutional education.

There's laws constantly being passed in the form of 'vouchers' to drain public school funds and funnel American kids into Christian indoctrination, and our public schools are now dramatically underfunded.

So I guess I understand why more than half the population just straight up ignores politics. because reality here is really depressing.

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[–] Mallspice@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Depends. Everyone who voted against Trump knows this and it’s probably why they did but most non voters and maga are still ignorant.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

There was never a point in US history that it was not a rogue state. If you believe there’s a period it wasn’t, you simply do not know enough history about the time period you’re referring to.

Or more likely, you believe white lives to be more valuable, and you take offense now that the US is directing their usual behavior towards white Europeans.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Those of us who aren't Team Orange or completely oblivious know, I think. An appalling number of people are completely disconnected from what's happening, and a disgusting number either don't care or love it.

I lost the last shred of faith I had in the American people with this election. I delight in the suffering of every shithead that either voted Trump, 3rd party, or not at all. ESPECIALLY the protest voters, conservative minorities, and rural idiots stupid enough to think Trump cared about them or was somehow a better because they didn't like something the Biden administration did. My schadenfreude levels are hitting new, bitter peaks there.

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[–] gamer@lemm.ee 46 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Based on the pro Trump people in my life, I've seen two classes:

  • Those in denial and ignorant in general (don't really follow the news), who don't believe for example that Trump is deporting people without due process, and blatantly violating the law and constitution.

  • Those who are so sucked into the MAGA own-the-libs circle-jerk that even when presented with the facts and proof of Trump doing something blatantly illegal, will usually retort with something like "oh so when the Democrats do it it's okay, but now the Trump is doing it it's wrong??? You fucking communist!"

Both I believe are the result of being fed far right propaganda by YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, etc. It's the only explanation I have. These aren't random people I don't know. These are people I love and have known my whole life.

It hurts to see, and I don't see a way to help them that doesn't involve ruining those relationships. I avoid talking about politics around them because I know it's going to make me resent them, and I don't want that.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Note, that this isn't actually the question. It's not whether Americans are aware of what's happening, it's about whether Americans are aware of how the rest of the world perceives the US.

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Aware and trying to let others in my circle that are unaware become aware.

[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago (7 children)

In the Los Angeles Mexican community no one is fucking aware. In the Chicago black community no one is fucking aware. I'm sick of the people in this shit hole. They are happy as long as they have their bread and circus, no matter what.

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